Game has no real story, change my mind.

[Polar Bear]

I'm beaten the game on probably the best ending after watching all the endings, really there's only 3 endings as 1 of the four is doing a step to then pick one of the other two endings.

Immortality Severance, was my ending you can check my achievements too.

There's really no story as to why you kill half of these bosses.

You don't get real story of why lady butterfly is trying to get kuro or why you have to kill her. No real reason why you have to kill a chain ogre instead of unleashing and befriending him.

No real understanding of why Gen has the wellspring curse that can cause his grandfather that he kills to pop out of his neck. As it transcends the logic and story of the game. Isshin's body isn't present when he comes out of his grandson's neck and there's no other time in the entire game that someone can come back to life without their body being present. So b.s. logic usage here for a final fight in the Immortality Severance ending.

No detail as to the factions of the shinobi who are fighting in this "warring" time period, no detail on who the bandits are. No detail on why you don't know owl's crew since you were raised by them and can't see the differences early on knowing that owl is working with Gen to obtain the Dragon's Heritage.

No story on the dead or why the centipedes grant immortality, only that they're "infested" yet the Child of Rejuvenation isn't and she's immortal too and guarded by the infested. Zero story behind this.

Most of the lore is told to you straight forward and there's very very little of it.

You're a shinobi, you have a master and father, you have to save your master. That's the entire story you get from the beginning.

Yet, there's no reason to save him because he is protected by Isshin and Emma. Emma literally could have guided you to Kuro in the first 10 minutes of actual game play, but doesn't. Why?

If Gen is immortal via the wellspring, why not find a way to make Isshin immortal via the wellspring too?

If Owl really wanted to be immortal why didn't he protect Kuro from the get go and try to earn loyalty with Kuro?

There's almost no reason behind most of the things you do in this game.

Go to Mibu Village to kill villagers that have gone crazy, yet there's no sake left to make them crazy anymore. Confirmed when you go to the priest and he basically says it's all gone during the second part of the story when Ashina was been taken over. There's no way to save these villagers via cure either.

Most of the side-quests are unrewarding that have some lore or fractured lore behind them. The lore you get from prayer bead necklaces isn't useful.

Where is the REAL story in this game?

With a few questions I can dismantle that Sekiro literally didn't even need to exist and Kuro would have still been fine. Or Sekiro could have came in and been lead to the palace right from the start via the hidden passage at the starting area by Emma.

Like, what the hell?

[Arashi]

Wait for Vaati s vid to explain it all.

[[Wahr] Eogard]

Looks like you are new to FromSoftware games.

[GRU-Vy]

The centerpede monks are corrupted and not protecting the child. The only real protection is the inner sanctum which is away from everything and the 4 monkeys which act as a key to inner sanctum.

No one is protecting kuro, your the only one. Everyone wants immortality from him so they can rule over everyone.

The other shinobi you see are from a rival faction invading ashina. The hirata estate was even an invasion. The rival clan organised the theives plan to burn and loot the estate. There are a few enemies in that section that arent the low tier trash. Like the mini bosses, monks (which may not even be monks could be a disguise), the purple ninja at the pagoda (same type as all the dead bodies outside the building where you first meet the tengu).

All the major characters/bosses are from ashina and they all want kuro’s immortality. Basically because of this people have been corrupted because they want the power but also its power is a curse hence the revive thing.

[TyresTyco]

I kinda agree with you. The way the story is told pretty much is the same than all the souls. Very cryptic and you need to imagine things. Now only with even less items that can explain the lore.

The whole genichiro and isshin thing is awkward and underdeveloped. The story does not make any sense at all.

Younger isshin poppin out of genichiro out of nowhere without any explaination how and why. The second mortal blade only being mentioned in one line and a document. So many open questions.. it just hurts. While I love the gameplay besides the endboss and story.. cant stop thinking that I'm burned out of this kind of story telling.

Woooh sekiro can talk. 2 lines and oneliners. So deep. So much story.

[Polar Bear]

"The centerpede monks are corrupted and not protecting the child. The only real protection is the inner sanctum which is away from everything and the 4 monkeys which act as a key to inner sanctum."

Yet the head monk the in main hall before Ashina is attacked says that the child must be lonely and is protected for her own good. (edit) oh, even gives you an item to give to her which she thanks you for delivering, proving furthermore that the monk was good and a protector.

"No one is protecting kuro, your the only one. Everyone wants immortality from him so they can rule over everyone."

Yet Isshin and Emma are aligned with you, protecting Kuro, and if you go Shura ending you have to kill both, providing they have even strength to protect him from you as well.

"The other shinobi you see are from a rival faction invading ashina. The hirata estate was even an invasion. The rival clan organised the theives plan to burn and loot the estate. There are a few enemies in that section that arent the low tier trash. Like the mini bosses, monks (which may not even be monks could be a disguise), the purple ninja at the pagoda (same type as all the dead bodies outside the building where you first meet the tengu)."

Why they're attacking, why they couldn't be friendly, etc, all unexplained. Also, the invasion was from "bandits" not ninja, as dialogue from the Looter reveals for the memory.

"All the major characters/bosses are from ashina and they all want kuro’s immortality. Basically because of this people have been corrupted because they want the power but also its power is a curse hence the revive thing."

Where is this ever explained?

[miep miep]

butterfly wants kuro since she works for owl. She helped training you.

Why dafuq you want to befriend a random stranger? Game is bad cuz it isnt facebook?

My understanding of the isshin situation is that Gen used the black mortal blade and the blood of kuro to perform a ritual to bring back his grandpa to life by sacrificing his own life.

The warring factions are the ashina clan and the department of interior as far as i remember. It is mentioned a few times.

The bandits are just hired bandits to make this incident look like a normal raid. They dont need backstory.

You do know owls crew, but non of them (except the ninja at the pagoda) is present in the first memory.... these are all bandits you cant know. If you do the purification ending and revisit the area you will see that there are suddenly a lot of shinobi around the place as well. You will see scenes with normal bandits on the floor and the shinobi standing on the rooftops. There is also a dialog you can listen to between a shinobi and the hired bandit chief (cant remember his name. He is the fat boss with the bottle).

Isshin is sick and close to dying... he can protect kuro for a few days thats it. Emma might be a nice bossfight but she still is just a doctor not much more.

You want emma to guide you there... really dude? You want her to secretly climb into that tower with you, the trained shinobi while she is a trained... doctor.

Isshin doesnt want immortality.

Owl wants to use kuro while kuro wants to get rid of his immortality.

"With a few questions I can dismantle that Sekiro literally didn't even need to exist and Kuro would have still been fine. Or Sekiro could have came in and been lead to the palace right from the start via the hidden passage at the starting area by Emma."

you dismantled nothing mate. Castle was under Gen direct rule and he probably blocked the hidden passage the same way it was blocked when the castle was under attack. This passage way is not usable while there is conflict going on

[Polar Bear]

"You want emma to guide you there... really dude? You want her to secretly climb into that tower with you, the trained shinobi while she is a trained... doctor."

You didn't read the post, there's a secret entrance way she uses to get to the tower and to the temple starting area she could have shown you at the beginning. This way is unlocked when you beat the game.

"Isshin is sick and close to dying... he can protect kuro for a few days thats it. Emma might be a nice bossfight but she still is just a doctor not much more."

If Sekiro didn't exist Kuro would have given the gift to Isshin. Story over.

"You do know owls crew, but non of them (except the ninja at the pagoda) is present in the first memory.... these are all bandits you cant know. If you do the purification ending and revisit the area you will see that there are suddenly a lot of shinobi around the place as well. You will see scenes with normal bandits on the floor and the shinobi standing on the rooftops. There is also a dialog you can listen to between a shinobi and the hired bandit chief (cant remember his name. He is the fat boss with the bottle)."

Talking about the low ranked shinobi with raven feathers.

"My understanding of the isshin situation is that Gen used the black mortal blade and the blood of kuro to perform a ritual to bring back his grandpa to life by sacrificing his own life."

Yet Ishhin is mind controlled too, which makes no sense.

"you dismantled nothing mate. Castle was under Gen direct rule and he probably blocked the hidden passage the same way it was blocked when the castle was under attack. This passage way is not usable while their is conlict going on"

Gen was being controlled by Owl. Owl didn't know about the passage because Emma was using it the entire time. How do you think she got the palace in the first place?

[miep miep]

"If Sekiro didn't exist Kuro would have given the gift to Isshin. Story over."

Wow you can do this with every game mate. Why am I the dragonborn and not that random dude over there.. story over. Why do i have to do all this witcher sh*t as geralt... couldnt lambert deal with that. Why am i the ashen one in dark souls and not that hollow over there. Great argument.

[Polar Bear]

"Wow you can do this with every game mate. Why am I the dragonborn and not that random dude over there.. story over. Why do i have to do all this witcher sh*t as geralt... couldnt lambert deal with that. Why am i the ashen one in dark souls and not that hollow over there. Great argument."

Meaning that, if Sekiro didn't save Kuro someone else would. Sekiro was no relevance to the story at all since Kuro could give the gift to Isshin or Emma and eveything would have still be fine.

:3

[Polar Bear]

Which is saying that Sekiro has nearly no character development. Every good story has good character development. This isn't supposed to be a souls game where there's little to no character development. This game is priding itself on its ability to tell stories. How can it do that if it has no real story?

(edit) there is literally no tie or motivation to save or do anything for a player other than just to do it because you want to do it, yet if you really question why you want to do it, there is no actual reasoning behind it story-wise. Proving there is no real story. You buy this game to be a hack-n-slasher only to find it you can't hack-n-slash.

Lmfao

[miep miep]

Originally posted by Polar Bear:

"Wow you can do this with every game mate. Why am I the dragonborn and not that random dude over there.. story over. Why do i have to do all this witcher sh*t as geralt... couldnt lambert deal with that. Why am i the ashen one in dark souls and not that hollow over there. Great argument."

Meaning that, if Sekiro didn't save Kuro someone else would. Sekiro was no relevance to the story at all since Kuro could give the gift to Isshin or Emma and eveything would have still be fine.

:3

Your life also has no relevance since if you arent there someone else would do your job. A good story for you is when you the main character is someone irreplaceable? Why cant you just be that dude who is in charge of protecting that boy? Why do you have to be someone super special? Why do you think like "mhh but that guy could do it aswell so why doesnt he do it while i sunbath over there"

[Admiral Lowskill]

Real question is how did you unlock all skills through only 1 playthrough and in 20 hours?
1- you used cheats to complete a game(such a shame dude)
2- you explored a little amount of game, so you could miss a lot of lore, try not to rush game

[Polar Bear]

"A good story for you is when you the main character is someone irreplaceable?"

That is the definition of a good story.

Hahaha. Some of the greats have stories like Hercules where he is irreplaceable.

"Why do you have to be someone super special?"

Being special is what motivates you to be who you are and reveal your true self. It's in most stories.

"Why do you think like 'mhh but that guy could do it aswell so why doesnt he do it while i sunbath over there'"

Because if anyone could do it, then why you? Why Sekiro?

Why is Sekiro raised by the Owl then betrayed by the Owl just because of one thing? Who really is Sekiro?

There's not even enough background story to warrant why Kuro gives Sekiro the gift in the first place other than convince to make the story possible. There's no reasoning behind this action that makes the game progress. Which is showing of terrible storytelling and character development.

Kuro just does it because he wants to, yet doesn't offer it to ANYONE ELSE that is as loyal as Sekiro is.

[Polar Bear]

"Real question is how did you unlock all skills through only 1 playthrough and in 20 hours?
1- you used cheats to complete a game(such a shame dude)
2- you explored a little amount of game, so you could miss a lot of lore, try not to rush game"

Used an exp modifier unlocking all skills realistically takes 100s of hours, most people that have that achieve used an exp mod, also have achievement for EXPLORING all of the game's points. So your second evaluation is false.

Also this comment doesn't have anything to do with story. :3

additionally you must have not read my original post as it reveals most of this lore, additionally since I can make these claims and defend them explains I know most of the lore the game has to offer.

[miep miep]

Originally posted by Polar Bear:

"A good story for you is when you the main character is someone irreplaceable?"

That is the definition of a good story.

Hahaha. Some of the greats have stories like Hercules where he is irreplaceable.

You 12 year old or what and never read a book in your life? There are enough good life stories of regular people out there....

Originally posted by Polar Bear:

"Real question is how did you unlock all skills through only 1 playthrough and in 20 hours?
1- you used cheats to complete a game(such a shame dude)
2- you explored a little amount of game, so you could miss a lot of lore, try not to rush game"

Used an exp modifier unlocking all skills realistically takes 100s of hours, most people that have that achieve used an exp mod, also have achievement for EXPLORING all of the game's points. So your second evaluation is false.

Also this comment doesn't have anything to do with story. :3

additionally you must have not read my original post as it reveals most of this lore, additionally since I can make these claims and defend them explains I know most of the lore the game has to offer.

Admits to cheating for achievements. Says he did explore the entire game cuz he has an achievement that says so.