The Variety of Rings, Spells, Armor and Upgrades

[Toki]

How's this game's variety when it comes to fashion choices and rings/accessories which change up how things work?

For example, Dark Wood Grain Ring made people do Ninja Rolls in Dark Souls.
And there's been transparency rings in Souls games before.
Guessing they might play a huge part in this if this is more stealth focused and has just one weapon? So they add diversity and options to gameplay.

Guessing there might also be lots of different outfit choices and maybe ways to upgrade the sword or whatnot? Add different qualities to it and whatnot.
Is there lots of spells as secondary attacks since they cut down weapon variety?

[Toki]

Originally posted by prototype81:

Originally posted by Liquid_Z:

It's not a "step backwards", rather a step in a different direction. The markings of great game does not necessitate being able to play dress up with your player character. For everything thing this game does not do that a Souls game would, it does something else instead. This isn't DS4.

Nope. It's a step backwards in overall quality of product and mechanics. The simple fact that it is a ninja game with poor and broken stealth is just silly and breaks immersion.

It does kinda feel like a step back. Adding in variety for weapons for people to use wouldn't take anything away from people who just wanna play the exact current version of the game, as they can choose to just only use a sword.
There's even a way to design it so extra skill points aren't required to level up multiple primary weapons. So game balance wouldn't shift at all for people who just wanna stick to a sword.

[Gork]

Yes, it is not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it already.

[Yoinkyz]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Fantastic bait, you are so intentionally aware of how the game is that you exactly hit all the ''complaints'' people have because it's not a typical souls game.

10/10.

yup watch the saps of steam fall for it

[Peshmerga]

With such an entitled-manchildren Dark Souls fanbase, it's no wonder that Director Hidetaka Miyazaki (宮崎 英高) decided to create something different. 10 years of making the same type of game, starting with Demon's Souls in 2009, is enough for one man.

[Toki]

Originally posted by Gork:

Yes, it is not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it already.

Imagine if a new FPS game came out and there was only 1 type of gun and no customization.
"It's not Dark Souls 4. So don't complain about the gun and cosmetics variety being zero."

Or an MMORPG.
"One class. One weapon. No stats. No cosmetic changes. It's not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it."

[Lukas_Poopus]

Originally posted by Kythos:

Originally posted by Gork:

Yes, it is not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it already.

Imagine if a new FPS game came out and there was only 1 type of gun and no customization.
"It's not Dark Souls 4. So don't complain about the gun and cosmetics variety being zero."

Or an MMORPG.
"One class. One weapon. No stats. No cosmetic changes. It's not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it."

I mean Legend of Zelda has been using that formula for years. Tons of people love it. You have 1 primary weapon you use 95% of the time, and some gimmick, albeit useful utility weapons you occasionally crack out. Stats? No. Cosmetics? No.

From Software just gave us a badass Legend of Zelda game.

[Saint]

People have been brainwashed because every damn game coming out recently needs to have stats and loot apparently.

[Necrolyte]

was just coming in with the zelda take.

jesus christ i hated nioh because of all the gear stuff. play the same levels over and over for side missions then ♥♥♥♥ with my loot after and go for some more repeated levels.

[Jotun]

Originally posted by prototype81:

Originally posted by Liquid_Z:

It's not a "step backwards", rather a step in a different direction. The markings of great game does not necessitate being able to play dress up with your player character. For everything thing this game does not do that a Souls game would, it does something else instead. This isn't DS4.

Nope. It's a step backwards in overall quality of product and mechanics. The simple fact that it is a ninja game with poor and broken stealth is just silly and breaks immersion.

No it is not a step backwards. there are 5 skill trees and a prosthetic upgrade tree. Most of the skill trees have to be unlocked through quest and exploration. Same for prosthetic upgrade materials. Exploration also rewards you with beads which can increase your vitality and posture.

Let's not ♥♥♥♥ around: 80% of players in DkS were using the most broken build they could imagine every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time. Let's not pretend there was any kind of variety. And I'm saying that from the PoV of someone that played a STR/FTH build in every DkS (and FTH was basically crap in DkS II and III... still took that path knowing it wasn't optimum). Sure it is nice to have options but 95% of the situations have a quality build as the optimum in DkS III (beside nameless and Oceiros where FTH is actually optimum).

Same goes for weapon and armor. Yeah nice... I've found a weapon! Oh... Yeah... It's crap... Well... I guess I'll just stick to my Lothric Knight UGS then (again, how many viable FTH weapon do we have in DkS III? 1.5 if you count Wolnir sword as half viable... for INT? Basically one, maybe two).

SO, in DkS III you basically have to pick build variety OR weapon variety, you can't have both if you want something viable.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by MrFrenglish:

There are no RPG elements except skills.

Its more of a Action game imo than RPG like DS.

Outside of char creation and stats DS is a piss poor example of RPGs.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Kythos:

Originally posted by Gork:

Yes, it is not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it already.

Imagine if a new FPS game came out and there was only 1 type of gun and no customization.
"It's not Dark Souls 4. So don't complain about the gun and cosmetics variety being zero."

Or an MMORPG.
"One class. One weapon. No stats. No cosmetic changes. It's not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it."

You have more than one weapon in Sekiro, or do shurikens, flamethrowers, axes, spears, and other prosthetic attachements somehow not exist now?
Also action games featuring one primary weapon type are nothing new, "oh noes i can't wield a Dragon Slayer or Buster Sword in Prince of Persia, it's a ♥♥♥♥ game!11!!"

[Jotun]

Originally posted by Spr1ggan:

Originally posted by Kythos:

Imagine if a new FPS game came out and there was only 1 type of gun and no customization.
"It's not Dark Souls 4. So don't complain about the gun and cosmetics variety being zero."

Or an MMORPG.
"One class. One weapon. No stats. No cosmetic changes. It's not Dark Souls 4. Deal with it."

You have more than 1 weapon in Sekiro, or do shurikens, flamethrowers, axes, spears, and other prosthetic attachements somehow not exist now?
Also action games featuring one primary weapon type are nothing new, "oh noes i can't wield a Dragon Slayer or Buster Sword in Prince of Persia, it's a ♥♥♥♥ game!11!!"

Yup. The Witcher 3 says hi! It was such a bad RPG. /s