Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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Zero Grim 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 8:15
Memories Question
Are the damage upgrades from memories just required past a certain point, I am fighting the corrupted monk and neither types of damage do more than generously a millimetre of their respective bars, I am using confetti (though I am almost out) but it seems like I must be doing something wrong when I do such little damage and the boss two hits me, is this just what Sekiro is going to be from this point forward?

personally not really a fan of feather duster armed, glass boned characters, if that's what sekrio is moving on I think I'll just enjoy what I've played so far and stop....I miss the bits where you were a ninja and not just walking into a big flat open pit with an enemy inside it...
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Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 9:47 
The monk on the bridge is regular physical enemy. You dont need confetti.

Are you sure you confronted the memories?

If you mean the ghost monk in mibu village. Dont try to fill her posture bar. It wont work. She recovers too quick even on half health if i remember correct.

Its a long hit and run fight. You can use 3 snap seeds in her and firekracker and fist of ashen to stun her.

The other fights that are comming are different.
最后由 Sokurah 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 10:29
Zero Grim 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 10:28 
I have confronted one memory so far, from horse dude (name escapes me at the moment) and I mean the phantom version, not the physical version.

I would be fine with being frail as glass OR having weak attacks but I don't see myself having fun if both are true, seems like making those prayer beads just made everyone deal more damage to me anyway...
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 10:31 
引用自 Zero Grim
I have confronted one memory so far, from horse dude (name escapes me at the moment) and I mean the phantom version, not the physical version.

I would be fine with being frail as glass OR having weak attacks but I don't see myself having fun if both are true, seems like making those prayer beads just made everyone deal more damage to me anyway...

I edit my post. Just in the moment you posted 😁

Maybe you should go to some places else before that boss. You can get more memorys and prayer beads.

You are a bit early on her. If you only beat oniwa as main boss so far.
最后由 Sokurah 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 10:32
Nibbie 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 10:33 
From your description it doesn't sound like you may not be deflecting much? You only need a bit of damage to get the posture damage to stick, then just like any enemy you do your best to keep on her and deflect everything.

Also as said above, does your first question mean you haven't been using the memories? If you are going for a challenge run, that's fine, but it sounds like you aren't. For all those memories to do anything you do have to actually confront them, like prayer beads they are pointless just sitting in your inventory.

Edit from your new post, like me you bypassed the castle if you only have the one memory. That is the next place you were supposed to go after the bull, so head there next, then I'd recommend Senpou Temple, you can get another memory from there afterwards, and the boss is certainly easier than the monk.
最后由 Nibbie 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 30 日 下午 10:35
(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 6:38 
引用自 Zero Grim
I have confronted one memory so far, from horse dude (name escapes me at the moment) and I mean the phantom version, not the physical version.

I would be fine with being frail as glass OR having weak attacks but I don't see myself having fun if both are true, seems like making those prayer beads just made everyone deal more damage to me anyway...
MY NAME IS...
GYOUBU
MASATAKA
ONIWA!!!

And yes, you should be leveling up your attack as you play. Especially if this is your first run. It is possible that Corrupted Monk can be the second boss you fight, but you’re basically sequence breaking on a first playthrough in that case, as you aren’t even required to go to Mibu Village until about halfway into the game.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 6:52 
You can fight the Corrupted Monk (and True Monk up to stage 2) by staying close, dodge through her attacks and slash her "rear" right after (or her sides), also on her back you are much more safe).
Corrupted Monk adn True Monk stages 1 and 2 she deliver a lot of wide sweeps that if you stay close to her body and dodge at the right direction and time, you can completely avoid the damage and slice her right after, just watch out for combos where it is not a good idea to dodge only once and attack right after, dodge through the whole combo and deal 1 or 2 hits, 3 or 4 maybe, right after the combo . . . you are already grabbing her super close anyway so no time to waste thinking, just pay attention to her moves to dodge again when needed.

(note: some attacks you cant just dodge so you may take some hits to the face anyway if you decide to go for dodge only and not pay attention for when you have to jump/deflect and when you have to get away).
Btw, you can use Mikiri too.

True Monk 3rd stage I dont advise you to stay close dodging, try deflecting or using something else like jump and prostetics, but when you get behind, it is 1 to 3 free hits.
最后由 EF_Neo1st 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 6:54
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 6:56 
About damage . .
If you see something that look human (or normal/natural) use Ako's Sugar.
If you see something that look supernatural use Divine Confetti.
Zero Grim 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:35 
Hmm well "find something tough, go somewhere else" has been my mantra for SOOO long now, I have run into so many enemies that just two shot me on sight I've been trying to find a boss or even miniboss that seems more geared for my health and damage.

I'm not saying I don't think I can beat the monk, its just it will take try after try after try, which will cause dragon rot and necessitate grinding for more items....it just seems like everything in the game is advising me to not take that approach when every mechanic punishes you for failure.

And I'm not insane at deflecting but I did a bit of it, and clashed at her a bunch, even a dozen or so unblocked hits barely made her health bar move at all, seemed to me like it was a strong indicator I was doing something wrong, if its one of those "o you just have to hit them 200+ times before they can hit you twice" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I just not going to bother, that type of gameplay is just so boring.
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:41 
引用自 Zero Grim
Hmm well "find something tough, go somewhere else" has been my mantra for SOOO long now, I have run into so many enemies that just two shot me on sight I've been trying to find a boss or even miniboss that seems more geared for my health and damage.

I'm not saying I don't think I can beat the monk, its just it will take try after try after try, which will cause dragon rot and necessitate grinding for more items....it just seems like everything in the game is advising me to not take that approach when every mechanic punishes you for failure.

And I'm not insane at deflecting but I did a bit of it, and clashed at her a bunch, even a dozen or so unblocked hits barely made her health bar move at all, seemed to me like it was a strong indicator I was doing something wrong, if its one of those "o you just have to hit them 200+ times before they can hit you twice" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I just not going to bother, that type of gameplay is just so boring.

Well after the mid boss you need to search the world to find 3 key items. Each is guarded by a boss. Usually the monk should be the last one in the natural game flow imo even tho you can do it in any order you want.

But you didnt beat that mid boss so far and likely miss many memorys and prayer beads.

You just went the wrong path by accident.

If you beat the bull, search the castle first and senpou temple.
That should be doable.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:44 
引用自 Zero Grim
Hmm well "find something tough, go somewhere else" has been my mantra for SOOO long now, I have run into so many enemies that just two shot me on sight I've been trying to find a boss or even miniboss that seems more geared for my health and damage.

I'm not saying I don't think I can beat the monk, its just it will take try after try after try, which will cause dragon rot and necessitate grinding for more items....it just seems like everything in the game is advising me to not take that approach when every mechanic punishes you for failure.

And I'm not insane at deflecting but I did a bit of it, and clashed at her a bunch, even a dozen or so unblocked hits barely made her health bar move at all, seemed to me like it was a strong indicator I was doing something wrong, if its one of those "o you just have to hit them 200+ times before they can hit you twice" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I just not going to bother, that type of gameplay is just so boring.
If you can dodge and position yourself good, the battle may take long but you can do the Corrupted Monk (and True Monk too).

If you can dodge at close combat and stay near, you can also do.

Try to improve at everything else (deflect, jump, skills, prostetics) but, when you want to just move on, use your best, or what you feel more confortable with at the moment . . (or even what you think will work and that you can make it work) and go for it.

Face your enemy
Face your fear
Face yourself
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Zero Grim 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:45 
I can't remember why I left senpou temple, but I did like that area, I've done as much of the castle as I can, I am again at the point where the two bosses I have access to there are insanely fast and kill me in two hits so didn't seem worth the dragonrot to stay.
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:46 
its really just not the right time for the monk i guess.
He missed too much of the rest.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:46 
引用自 Zero Grim
I can't remember why I left senpou temple, but I did like that area, I've done as much of the castle as I can, I am again at the point where the two bosses I have access to there are insanely fast and kill me in two hits so didn't seem worth the dragonrot to stay.
What are the bosses?
Corrupted Monk and? Owl or Genichiro?
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:46 
引用自 Sokurah
its really just not the right time for the monk i guess.
He missed too much of the rest.
Nah, he can do the Corrupted Monk even before Genichiro.
:praisesun::steamhappy:
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 31 日 上午 10:47 
引用自 Zero Grim
I can't remember why I left senpou temple, but I did like that area, I've done as much of the castle as I can, I am again at the point where the two bosses I have access to there are insanely fast and kill me in two hits so didn't seem worth the dragonrot to stay.


You should clear the bosses at the castle and in senpou temple.
Then face the boss atop the castle. Then you should advance.

At least that was always worked for me and felt like a natural flow.
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