Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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i'm amazed to see meraco defending linux!! :lunar2019shockedpig:

it is a refreshing change! :D

anyway, linux in the past was not ready for games, the graphic cards and opengl support was lagging and even wine failed to support many needed calls. To use linux, people would need to learn about it and there was very few big games ported.

Today, modern graphic card support is usually very good (intel and amd it is really plug and play). Linux is now easy to use, in fact is easier than windows for people that never used computers... but most people already know windows and that makes anything different "hard" (just look at windows people using macos for the first time)...Linux can have many features that normal users will never know, but also do windows.
Games, we now have a lot and many big names. Steam made the important push and while some publishers still refuse to support linux, others are already supporting in all their recent games. The fact that they keep supporting even in new games show that good planing is enough to offset any extra costs of supporting linux. Even studios that have no knowledge in linux, can give feral and other porting companies and people permissions to port the game. Feral now porting the games to vulkan helped a lot in the performance, so the performance difference from the port is getting smaller each day. Games developed for multiplatforms have usually similar or even better performance in linux, but all depends of the code and tools used.

Anyway, i personally have almost 1300 linux games, have been playing many great games in linux, i do not have windows installed in any of my machines and i don't even use wine for several years... So when someone says that linux is not for games, i would say that they are stuck in the past. Yes, windows still have more advanced in game support, but they have a way bigger market share and way longer time in the game market, even broken APIs are workaround, but linux can do games too... Performance, all depends of the game code (quality/features/tech used)
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meraco の投稿を引用:

That's your dumb opinion. You are clearly uneducated about the topic. Stop spreading random lies and educate yourself first.
Saying Linux is not for games is like saying Windows is not for games 25 years ago. You must be a brainless teen to say something that stupid.
Linux is absolutely for games, just as much as any other decent operating system. There is not reason why it wouldn't be. The only thing that makes developers skip Linux support is the market share. We can thank dumb consumers for that, especially the chinese market, filled with hypocrites, using pirated Windows instead of using free software and contributing towards the greater good for humanity.

Guess my IT background is worthless.

Thank you for opening my eyes. I'll take on painting and sell them on the streets to continue my living.

Wine/Proton, Steam Play. Nuff said. I second what you said and will gladly buy one of your paintings for a reasonable price when I see you on the streets.
I'm also interested in a native Linux version! Looks great!
Cant you just run it on a VM? I don't think the performance loss should be that heavy if you have a decent system
Linux is a fine OS. I use Linux just for my work. Just keep gaming out of my Linux please. Let Windows be for gaming.
asdf 2019年3月22日 8時55分 
Love_TDX の投稿を引用:
Linux is a fine OS. I use Linux just for my work. Just keep gaming out of my Linux please. Let Windows be for gaming.

valve did the exact opposite with proton
https://www.protondb.com/app/814380

another windows game, that works day1 on linux
A native Linuxversion would be nice. I guess it is alway good too show the developer that there is an interrest for a linuxport. I don't like posts saying things like "just use windows" for gaming. This is basically the same telling a macuser to use windows for gaming. Linuxusers are equaly used to their os than windows or macusers are used to their platform. We just know how to work with it and why we are using it in favour of the other options available. If there is a chance to show our interrest in a game to be ported to the os of our favor, it should be ok to post it here. It is just the same userbehaviour as with other platforms. If you use linux you want all your software and hardware working in the best and easiest way possible. There is nothing wrong with asking for that in my opinion.
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asdf 2019年3月22日 10時01分 
ripper81 の投稿を引用:
A native Linuxversion would be nice. I guess it is alway good too show the developer that there is an interest for a linuxport. I don't like posts saying things like "just use windows" for gaming. This is basicaly the same telling a macuser to use windows for gaming.

if you play it with proton, they see, that you are playing on linux and maybe they reconsider for the next project.. or at least use vulkan, so the performance with proton is much better
Hey asdf, i know about those things, but i'll prefer a native solution. Playing games with proton is like using crutches in most cases. It is better than nothing of course and valve and the community are doing a great job in supporting linux with it.
asdf 2019年3月22日 11時28分 
ripper81 の投稿を引用:
Hey asdf, i know about those things, but i'll prefer a native solution. Playing games with proton is like using crutches in most cases. It is better than nothing of course and valve and the community are doing a great job in supporting linux with it.

crutches? at indie games wou wont see any difference and sekiro has very low specs
the only difference you see is, that it installs some windows stuff at first launch
Rammix 2019年3月23日 14時42分 
Just ignore the "linux-is-not-for-gaming-too-small-userbase-etc-etc" trolls. They appear to visit Every Single f*****g Linux Thread on steam.
To those trolls: dudes, get a real job, get laid or do whatever else instead of trolling. Trolling is not cool.
最近の変更はRammixが行いました; 2019年3月23日 14時44分
it works out of the box with steam play proton :D
hasin 2019年3月24日 5時48分 
I don't think it's going to happen any time soon.
Windows is only one, locked code, same kernel, and OS base software to everyone, so developers basically don't need to worry about OS issues, even so, many problems still happen.
Say Linux support is too generic because there are many different distributions, many kernel versions running, no NVIDIA/AMD true support for drivers (actually official are ♥♥♥♥), very tiny player base. Imagine a nightmare would be to support and troubleshoot users reports.
The first problem would be a huge lack of optimization due to many different distros. So, don't need to be smart to know why basically there are no games on Linux.
I'm not saying the OS is bad or anything, it's just not focused on games in an industry perspective for an obvious reason.
asdf 2019年3月24日 6時38分 
Ripp1nCorpse の投稿を引用:
I don't think it's going to happen any time soon.
Windows is only one, locked code, same kernel, and OS base software to everyone, so developers basically don't need to worry about OS issues, even so, many problems still happen.
Say Linux support is too generic because there are many different distributions, many kernel versions running, no NVIDIA/AMD true support for drivers (actually official are ♥♥♥♥), very tiny player base. Imagine a nightmare would be to support and troubleshoot users reports.
The first problem would be a huge lack of optimization due to many different distros. So, don't need to be smart to know why basically there are no games on Linux.
I'm not saying the OS is bad or anything, it's just not focused on games in an industry perspective for an obvious reason.

how does FERAL INTERACTIVE do it?
they porting games to linux and mac... sometimes way after the release and they still exist.
the time shadow of the tomb raider comes to linux it will be cheaper than now and they still making profit

AND i havent read anyone complaining about games not working.
FIRST: ferals and most of linux developers just program for UBUNTU and/or STEAMOS. so you dont have to bother with other distributions. write it in the specs and you dont have to support suse, or arch
SECOND: most distros are based on DEBIAN, so there shouldnt be any problems, no matter if you use mint, or ubuntu, or kubuntu, or elementary, or deepin, or zorin, or ...... they all have the same base
THIRD: firefox, chrome, libreoffice, etc work on every linux distro. why shouldnt games work like that? i mean there are a lot of linux games on steam and the newer ones just work, beause engines got better linux support, APIs became better, drivers are better, etc
Beef 2019年3月24日 17時47分 
Love_TDX の投稿を引用:
Linux is a fine OS. I use Linux just for my work. Just keep gaming out of my Linux please. Let Windows be for gaming.

And for me, Windows is bad OS in design and User Interaction which one must pay me to use.

Example, DOTNET ran faster on Linux after the initial port without performance enhancements. Where Microsoft had to performance enhance it for Windows to counter the Linux port.

I prefer to use an OS I can trust and that has proven itself; from embedded to desktop, server, and super computers by running most of the world you do and do not see.
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