Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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jphendren 2020 年 1 月 26 日 上午 11:46
I guess it time to call it quits.
I've played the game for 52 hours at this point, and I still majorly suck at this game. My 13 year old son mowed through more game in 14 hours than I have in 52. I've watched so many different tip videos. I've practiced, and practiced, and practiced, and I just can't defeat Genichiro. I've tried to beat O'rin, and the Corrupted Monk as well, and I just can't seem to do those either. I'm literally stuck and can't move forward without defeating one of these bosses. I'm 43, maybe I'm just too old and slow. As I mentioned, my son beat all of them with ease. It just isn't fun anymore, time to play something more my speed. They really could have made this game more appealing with a difficulty slider. Not everyone enjoys being punished this hard just to play a game.
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仁義なき戦い 2020 年 1 月 26 日 下午 9:50 
引用自 jphendren
I guess I'm definitely done now. In a fit of annoyance, I deleted my save. So, there is no way I am starting over.

Yes, Saint Riot is amazingly good at this game. No matter how much practice I get, never going to be that good. I did learn some things from his videos that I had not know up until now.
it's not about him being good; did you do what he said to do? ignore what he does in the video, listen to what he says
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 26 日 下午 10:40 
引用自 jphendren
I guess I'm definitely done now. In a fit of annoyance, I deleted my save. So, there is no way I am starting over.

Yes, Saint Riot is amazingly good at this game. No matter how much practice I get, never going to be that good. I did learn some things from his videos that I had not know up until now.
it's not about him being good; did you do what he said to do? ignore what he does in the video, listen to what he says
He deleted the save.
He did not hear Saint, he did not hear me or anyone else here and quit...
Witcher 2020 年 1 月 26 日 下午 10:45 
引用自 jphendren
Just played Genichiro another hour or so, still can't even pass the first phase. I just don't see anything changing. Fighting Cowboy says stay on him, keep up the pressure. Doesn't work for me, he can attack me even when I'm trying to attack him. He also has this grab thing, I never manage to get away from it. I've tried rolling and jumping back, always results in me being grabbed and taking nearly my whole health bar. If I can't beat this guy, I can't progress any further into the game. I've never played a video game I couldn't finish, this may be the first.
did you watch Saint Riot's videos?

I found GamerGrade's boss fight videos better. Here's the one I watched a few times to defeat Genichiro.

https://youtu.be/yWJdi_TKcP0
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 12:05 
Fun fact ... When I decided it was time to move on and defeat Genichiro all I did was go full rampage on him, cornering Genichiro to any wall (as he moves to the sides trying to get away) and keep attacking untill he attacks and I deflect.

His grabs can be interruped by normal attacks as Owl kicks and attacks can also be interruped by normal attacks (basically most enemies attacks can be interruped by normal attacks) If done right at the beginning, still, misstiming or misjudging a situation will end up in a bad result or some damage to the face. (Btw, going full rampage on Owl you keep the pressure but the old man is strong and resourseful and it did not work the same on Owl but makes the battle a bit faster, yes indeed).

1st and 2nd stages are harder than 3rd stage as at 3rd stage he does less normal attacks and tries more to use his specials and to get away from you.

So ... Even a full rampage on Genichiro, cornering him against every single wall if needed, would be a good Idea, still ... He deleted his save and dont feel like coming back.
Witcher 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 12:08 
I found it more difficult in all bosses I have fought in the last phase because you don't get to practise as much as the first phase :steammocking:

Still working on the Owl...

Edit: I would have thought since spending so many hours in the same arena fighting Genichiro, I should own the arena ;P
最后由 Witcher 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 12:11
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 12:20 
引用自 Witcher
I found it more difficult in all bosses I have fought in the last phase because you don't get to practise as much as the first phase :steammocking:

Still working on the Owl...

Edit: I would have thought since spending so many hours in the same arena fighting Genichiro, I should own the arena ;P
Difficulty vary from player to player according to how each one plays the game and the player skills and mindset at the game.

I was saving Genichiro for last because I had in mind he would be the final boss but when I was told Emma would heal the dragonrots after I defeat him I just went full rampage on him.

For my way of playing the final stage was more like a joke as he take more of the bash and even reacts less ... He is more damgerous but I was slice-dancing around him and even his specials did not work and I even got a lightning reversal once.
Clint Eastwood 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 4:18 
I'm around the same age as you. It took me ages to get into the game and get used to playing it. My first playthrough took about 89 hours and the harder bosses like Genichiro and Owl took over 30 attempts.I didn't realize the memories were used for levelng attack power and was playng for quite a while having not used them.

Once it clicks though, and it will, you'll be powering through in no time. I'd recommend watching Tyrannicon's 'How to Beat...' series. His videos were really helpful; for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH3TBPHyDPw

Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 6:28 
Push too hard is the worst you can do vs genichiro. Two hit then deflect/block or he will get you with his jump or thrust move and you wont be able to block.

Always think why you die, with what move did he got you.

Also what means elderly?
As long you not 50-60 it should be no problem. Genichiro only got very few fast moves rest is pretty predictable.

As long you can still drive a car save you have the reflexes for sekiro.
最后由 Sokurah 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 6:33
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 7:08 
引用自 Sokurah
Push too hard is the worst you can do vs genichiro. Two hit then deflect/block or he will get you with his jump or thrust move and you wont be able to block.

Always think why you die, with what move did he got you.

Also what means elderly?
As long you not 50-60 it should be no problem. Genichiro only got very few fast moves rest is pretty predictable.

As long you can still drive a car save you have the reflexes for sekiro.
I dont mean it is better to do Genichiro going full rampage on him but after you told me Emma would heal the dragonrots I gone there full rampage :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 7:16 
Yes sure constant pushing is good but that doesnt mean just spamm the attack button 😊

I just wanted to make that one clear.

Genichiro really only got one fast thrust that he sometimes use out of nowhere. The rest is super predictable.

Also heal is very safe in this fight because if you have some distance he will always make his changed bow shot which is easy to evade.

Also in phase two make sure you see what he does after his jump. Unlike in phase one he will do thrust or sweep.
Only react when you see what he does not to early because you think he makes s thrust.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 7:37 
I had already tried Genichiro before so I knew I could land 1 to 2 hits, deflect some 3 to 5 times and he would either try to run away (PUNISHMENT TIME!!!) or he would try a special attack (another punishment most of the time).

On stage 3 he dont even deflect that much making the fight faster.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 7:41 
The practice with the Battle Monks made Genichiro look easy and harmless ... Tbh, sometimes I still die to those Battle Monks but I found Genichiro easy fighting him like I was fighting the Monks there.
Jarl 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 9:44 
OP: sad to hear you delete your save. FWIW, 43 years old here, not really used to controllers and my first souls-like game. I'm in the middle of my first NG+ game now. I can't say I've felt restricted by my reaction times really. Some bosses took a lot of tries, but perserverance and memorization carried the day eventually!
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 9:53 
引用自 Jarl
OP: sad to hear you delete your save. FWIW, 43 years old here, not really used to controllers and my first souls-like game. I'm in the middle of my first NG+ game now. I can't say I've felt restricted by my reaction times really. Some bosses took a lot of tries, but perserverance and memorization carried the day eventually!

Genichiro is still quite early in the game.
He can start a new game, he will see the early areas will be much easier for him.

Maybe OP should just let some time pass to settle the salt level and come back another day.

I quit DS3 for some month and came back later having a great time.

If you struggle again the Tyrannycon vids on YT are pretty good.
You find cheese for bosses you can cheese, and easy methods for bosses you cant really cheese.
最后由 Sokurah 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 9:55
Sokurah 2020 年 1 月 27 日 上午 10:07 
引用自 jphendren
I guess I'm definitely done now. In a fit of annoyance, I deleted my save. So, there is no way I am starting over.

Yes, Saint Riot is amazingly good at this game. No matter how much practice I get, never going to be that good. I did learn some things from his videos that I had not know up until now.


Sekiro use cloud storage by default, so if you havent turned that of, you should be able to get your last save back. :steamhappy:
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