How much harder is Insshin Sword Saint in NG+?

[khamthien251]

Just finish the game and damn, the last fight is amazing. But i forgot to backup my savegame so if i want to fight him again i have to do NG+ (NG is not fun anymore)...

So how much harder is he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjMgVbK1xfA

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Honestly not significantly so, you'll keep getting attack power increases from bosses in NG+ which will make you significantly stronger by the time you reach Isshin. I believe if you activate the bell demon it increases the difficulty by one NG+ cycle, so it might be worth starting a new run and trying that.

[Sasha Mason]

Having played through the game four whole times, not that much harder at all.
Also considering the fact that you've beaten him before means that you already know a lot of his attacks. Even on NG+3 he wasn't really any harder.

Don't be afraid of NG+.

[mewlynx]

The difficulty curve in NG+ and beyond is essentially a flat line, honestly. Shouldn't be that much harder at all

[OozeGang slingman]

he is way easier once you learn how to play

[samDLIVE]

He's a monster when he uses spear if you use demon bell + no kuro on ng. I'm on ng+7 and lol I hate his five hit spear combo so much. Normal NG+'s is basically a fun boss rush though, you're going to essentially become Shura.

[inkbiegel]

he took me forever in NG, steamrolled him in NG+ and now he's whooping my ass all over again in NG++ without the charm...

[samDLIVE]

Originally posted by inkbiegel:

he took me forever in NG, steamrolled him in NG+ and now he's whooping my ass all over again in NG++ without the charm...

Yeah, you'll be fine phase one, but that spear combo in phase 2 is so delayed and hits like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ truck LOL. You can sometimes get him in a loop of his leap attack into flame vent fire dmg if you need any tactics. You basically oil him, then bait his leap attack by running like a scared little baby wolf, dodge, flamevent into living force, rinse repeat till out of emblems. Then phase 3 you can just hope to get lucky with him using the lighting attack :P.

[Slaking Got Me Quaking]

Isshin was still tough for me the second time around, but after the amount of time i spent fighting him he just wasn't that tough anymore in NG+, granted i did have to die a few times to remember his moveset.

[DOFR]

He is harder if you plan on making a no Charm playthrough, which I do recommend

[AntiSocialAge]

I went all the way to playthrough #8 and the game just kept getting more and more easy.

[Washing Machine]

You get more and more Attack Power, so not really. I guess since you cap your beads, he'll do more damage/posture damage to you, but that's whatever since you know the moveset after first fight anyway.

I ain't know the math, but apparently first NG+ is the biggest leap, then it's very minor difficulty boost each NG+ after that, until +7?

[Aryend]

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

You get more and more Attack Power, so not really. I guess since you cap your beads, he'll do more damage/posture damage to you, but that's whatever since you know the moveset after first fight anyway.

I ain't know the math, but apparently first NG+ is the biggest leap, then it's very minor difficulty boost each NG+ after that, until +7?

Yeah, I'm at NG++++ and honestly don't notice much difference. Guess if OP wants a challenge he should do a regular NG run with demon bell and without kuro's charm.

[Jonny Sparta]

Im thinking about not taking any more attack power after ng ends, then the ng+'s would probaly be hard.

[OozeGang slingman]

Originally posted by Aryend:

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

You get more and more Attack Power, so not really. I guess since you cap your beads, he'll do more damage/posture damage to you, but that's whatever since you know the moveset after first fight anyway.

I ain't know the math, but apparently first NG+ is the biggest leap, then it's very minor difficulty boost each NG+ after that, until +7?

Yeah, I'm at NG++++ and honestly don't notice much difference. Guess if OP wants a challenge he should do a regular NG run with demon bell and without kuro's charm.

I don't think you get the option to remove Kuro's charm in NG. you have to start NG+

[Scout]

Originally posted by osama bin laden, forbidden one D:

Originally posted by Aryend:

Yeah, I'm at NG++++ and honestly don't notice much difference. Guess if OP wants a challenge he should do a regular NG run with demon bell and without kuro's charm.

I don't think you get the option to remove Kuro's charm in NG. you have to start NG+

You can do a regular ng run without charm right after you beat game once.