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Knightmage Bael Jun 20, 2019 @ 7:54pm
Hirata Estate Backstabber Identity?
Who's the one who stabs you in the back?

It would make sense if it were Owl, but the sword is different, right? Who else works with Owl against Kuro Sama who would stab you in the back?
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wilco64256 Jun 20, 2019 @ 8:04pm 
Owl outright tells Sekiro it was him late in the game.
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Chrysalis Jun 20, 2019 @ 8:27pm 
It was Sekiros father, the great Shinobi Owl, who stabbed him in the back and the sword is the same as the one he uses in the fight against Sekiro on top of Ashina Castle.
Last edited by Chrysalis; Jun 20, 2019 @ 8:27pm
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DUBIOUS BODYWEIGHTBUILDER Jun 20, 2019 @ 9:22pm 
it was his dad yeah
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Shichiya Jun 20, 2019 @ 11:36pm 
I can't think of anyone who has a huge katana as big as Owl's one

The story gets explained later on (kinda) in the alternate memory
Last edited by Shichiya; Jun 20, 2019 @ 11:36pm
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Knightmage Bael Jun 21, 2019 @ 12:48am 
Originally posted by wilco64256:
Owl outright tells Sekiro it was him late in the game.

the swords don't look anything alike though. The one that stabbed him was a straight edge. Owl's has a CURVED katana

Originally posted by 七夜 ╬ Shichiya:
I can't think of anyone who has a huge katana as big as Owl's one

The story gets explained later on (kinda) in the alternate memory

You think he's compensating for something?
Last edited by Knightmage Bael; Jun 21, 2019 @ 12:48am
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Artek [General] Jun 21, 2019 @ 2:24am 
Originally posted by Archmage_Bael:
Originally posted by wilco64256:
Owl outright tells Sekiro it was him late in the game.

the swords don't look anything alike though. The one that stabbed him was a straight edge. Owl's has a CURVED katana
This one bothers me. If its implied to be him then why the hell the sword is different? The size is a giveaway, but Owl is using a Murakumo-like sword, while the one in a cutscene is surprisingly straight.
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OCTDUMPUS Jun 21, 2019 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by Artek General:
This one bothers me. If its implied to be him then why the hell the sword is different? The size is a giveaway, but Owl is using a Murakumo-like sword, while the one in a cutscene is surprisingly straight.

Owl is a pretty cunning guy, he could have used another person's blade to cover his tracks

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Chrysalis Jun 21, 2019 @ 3:55am 
I don't get why everyong thinks the sword is straight. It is slightly curved like every other Katana, it only seems less curved because of the blade length.
I also don't see that big of a difference between the sword he uses in Hirata Estate and the one in the battle against Owl.

https://imgur.com/5DjjYDj

https://imgur.com/LffbEa9
Last edited by Chrysalis; Jun 21, 2019 @ 3:55am
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alicerinz Jun 21, 2019 @ 4:02am 
The sword thing is unimportant. He makes it obvious that he killed you during the second memory you get from owl's bell charm.
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Knightmage Bael Jun 21, 2019 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by Soroka:
The sword thing is unimportant. He makes it obvious that he killed you during the second memory you get from owl's bell charm.

You mean when you go BACK to Hirata estate and fight him in the same room as Lady Butterfly?

I actually haven't managed to unlock that yet, but I've heard about it. I should probably start using the wiki - but I don't wanna give away stuff I haven't discovered yet. XD
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Chrysalis Jun 21, 2019 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Archmage_Bael:
Originally posted by Soroka:
The sword thing is unimportant. He makes it obvious that he killed you during the second memory you get from owl's bell charm.

You mean when you go BACK to Hirata estate and fight him in the same room as Lady Butterfly?

I actually haven't managed to unlock that yet, but I've heard about it. I should probably start using the wiki - but I don't wanna give away stuff I haven't discovered yet. XD

Yes, this all happens after the endboss in the memory that can be unlocked with the second bell charm you get.
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Rocket Witch Jun 21, 2019 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Artek General:
This one bothers me. If its implied to be him then why the hell the sword is different? The size is a giveaway, but Owl is using a Murakumo-like sword, while the one in a cutscene is surprisingly straight.
It could just be an oversight. Like it may have been in an earlier version of the story that they had a Lone Shadow stab Ookami instead, and later changed everything else but forgot about that.

IMO a lot less of the small details in Fromsoft games are as deliberate as people think. Still, it could be deliberate and yet something as straightforward as "a straighter sword looked better in the shot we wanted to frame".
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Knightmage Bael Jun 22, 2019 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by Millhiore F. Biscotti:
Originally posted by Artek General:
This one bothers me. If its implied to be him then why the hell the sword is different? The size is a giveaway, but Owl is using a Murakumo-like sword, while the one in a cutscene is surprisingly straight.
It could just be an oversight. Like it may have been in an earlier version of the story that they had a Lone Shadow stab Ookami instead, and later changed everything else but forgot about that.

IMO a lot less of the small details in Fromsoft games are as deliberate as people think. Still, it could be deliberate and yet something as straightforward as "a straighter sword looked better in the shot we wanted to frame".

Yeah, well as you said, quite a lot of the smaller details in FromSoft games are intentional.
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