Demon of hatred

[Natural Love]

Hi So 26% of all players defeated the demon of hatred?That is pretty impressive considering he was more difficult then the last boss at least for me.The moveset of that boss is just hilarious^^

[Engels78]

Originally posted by Chris:

Hi So 26% of all players defeated the demon of hatred?That is pretty impressive considering he was more difficult then the last boss at least for me.The moveset of that boss is just hilarious^^

Bait Post?
26% killed as many people killed it like me... With Cheese 😝 For 1.5h to make jump from tower to wall...

See that only 15% killed Father Owl. And this is real as he has no cheese! It took me 5h...

[Natural Love]

Yeah sure bait lol what do you mean with wall?I know there is a cheating program around and i asume most of them didn’t used it.

Originally posted by Engels78:

Originally posted by Chris:

Hi So 26% of all players defeated the demon of hatred?That is pretty impressive considering he was more difficult then the last boss at least for me.The moveset of that boss is just hilarious^^

Bait Post?
26% killed as many people killed it like me... With Cheese 😝 For 1.5h to make jump from tower to wall...

See that only 15% killed Father Owl. And this is real as he has no cheese! It took me 5h...

[HoneyDrake]

Considering everything said: maybe not bait, just an confused player.

Like it was said already: you can beat the Demon without actually fighting him. That's not the case for Owl Father

[HoneyDrake]

And something else to note, games like this will have a lot of people, percentage wise, get all achievements, as they would not have bought the game to begin with, if they are not interested in it.

[ahaha.wav]

Originally posted by Engels78:

26% killed as many people killed it like me... With Cheese 😝 For 1.5h to make jump from tower to wall...

Originally posted by Honey Drake:

Like it was said already: you can beat the Demon without actually fighting him

I think you're seriously underestimating average player ability if you think the majority of people could only beat him with the cheese strat.

[Engels78]

Originally posted by Chris:

Yeah sure bait lol what do you mean with wall?I know there is a cheating program around and i asume most of them didn’t used it.

Originally posted by Engels78:

Bait Post?
26% killed as many people killed it like me... With Cheese 😝 For 1.5h to make jump from tower to wall...

See that only 15% killed Father Owl. And this is real as he has no cheeseburger! It took me 5h...

I am not talking about cheating I am talking about cheesing...

Originally posted by ahaha.wav:

Originally posted by Engels78:

26% killed as many people killed it like me... With Cheese 😝 For 1.5h to make jump from tower to wall...

Originally posted by Honey Drake:

Like it was said already: you can beat the Demon without actually fighting him

I think you're seriously underestimating average player ability if you think the majority of people could only beat him with the cheese strat.

I don't underestimate I just tell that Deamon is not reliable measurement of players' skill! 😝
Father Owl is...

[Natural Love]

Demon of hatred is much harder than father owl if you fight him legit

Originally posted by Engels78:

Originally posted by Chris:

Yeah sure bait lol what do you mean with wall?I know there is a cheating program around and i asume most of them didn’t used it.

I am not talking about cheating I am talking about cheesing...

Originally posted by ahaha.wav:

I think you're seriously underestimating average player ability if you think the majority of people could only beat him with the cheese strat.

I don't underestimate I just tell that Deamon is not reliable measurement of players' skill! 😝
Father Owl is...

[Engels78]

Originally posted by Chris:

Demon of hatred is much harder than father owl if you fight him legit

Originally posted by Engels78:

I am not talking about cheating I am talking about cheesing...





I don't underestimate I just tell that Deamon is not reliable measurement of players' skill! 😝
Father Owl is...

I didn't tell that he is easier! As is... Different than any Bosses in Sekiro is more like Dark Souls Boss... But yes he is hard! According to some people Deamon and Father are equal hard. As with Deamon fighting legit you can use 3 times whistle and Suzaku Umbrella... With Father I haven't used any tool!

But you can cheese Deamon so some/many of those 26% done it...

[Natural Love]

For some reason it would be interesting to know how to cheese him but i think it’s better not to know^^

Originally posted by Engels78:

Originally posted by Chris:

Demon of hatred is much harder than father owl if you fight him legit

I didn't tell that he is easier! As is... Different than any Bosses in Sekiro is more like Dark Souls Boss... But yes he is hard! According to some people Deamon and Father are equal hard. As with Deamon fighting legit you can use 3 times whistle and Suzaku Umbrella... With Father I haven't used any tool!

But you can cheese Deamon so many of those 26% done it...

[Engels78]

Originally posted by Chris:

For some reason it would be interesting to know how to cheese him but i think it’s better not to know^^

Originally posted by Engels78:

I didn't tell that he is easier! As is... Different than any Bosses in Sekiro is more like Dark Souls Boss... But yes he is hard! According to some people Deamon and Father are equal hard. As with Deamon fighting legit you can use 3 times whistle and Suzaku Umbrella... With Father I haven't used any tool!

But you can cheese Deamon so many of those 26% done it...

Please here it is 😉

https://youtu.be/iERhmvRAYuc

[HoneyDrake]

Originally posted by ahaha.wav:

Originally posted by Engels78:

26% killed as many people killed it like me... With Cheese 😝 For 1.5h to make jump from tower to wall...

Originally posted by Honey Drake:

Like it was said already: you can beat the Demon without actually fighting him

I think you're seriously underestimating average player ability if you think the majority of people could only beat him with the cheese strat.

I am not, I am just saying that he is right: Owl Father is harder to kill, hell: getting to him is already more difficult, as you need to trigger a special ending with listening, etc. so yeah...


An hidden enemy is most likely less often killed than someone who you seem to find more easily... add in that DoH can be cheesed (and even if you don't exploit him, running counter clock-wise and only attacking when you can grab him is enough to win against his first 2 stages)

[terrible player]

Demon becomes pretty easy once you get his patterns down. I suffered a lot on him, came back the next day, suffered a bit more, and then just sort of beat him with 0 deaths and only 2 gourds used.

The trickiest thing about him is to learn to avoid parrying most attacks and figure out the hitboxes so that you can sprint around them and reliably get in a few hits every time he attacks. Well, almost every time.

[Natural Love]

Originally posted by AYAYA:

Demon becomes pretty easy once you get his patterns down. I suffered a lot on him, came back the next day, suffered a bit more, and then just sort of beat him with 0 deaths and only 2 gourds used.

The trickiest thing about him is to learn to avoid parrying most attacks and figure out the hitboxes so that you can sprint around them and reliably get in a few hits every time he attacks. Well, almost every time.

I already beat him but i cant say he was easy gg

[Maratka-Indwa]

Originally posted by AYAYA:

"Demon becomes pretty easy once you get his patterns down."

Let me correct you.
*Every From Software boss becomes pretty easy once you get his/her patterns down.

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by Chris:

Demon of hatred is much harder than father owl if you fight him legit

Owl father is also a lot harder to find without a guide, and takes a lot more work to get to. Demon of Hatred is always there once you get to the final part of the game; you just have to get to him. Owl father requires you to exhaust a bunch of dialogues and do a couple of eavesdrops that most players won't find without a guide. I'd guess the primary reason for the difference in the percentage of players that have killed Owl father compared to Demon of Hatred is that.

Originally posted by Maratka-Indwa:

Let me correct you.
*Every From Software boss becomes pretty easy once you get his/her patterns down.

Not when your strategy for Champion Gundyr involves praying to RNGesus for him to not use his charge attack in phase 2.