Am i the only one who low-key hates the Corrupted Monk?

[Artek [General]]

After practicing the boss for a little project of mine, i realized just how much i dislike her. I mean, i knew it the first time we fought, she caused me to have one of those "souls-rage" moments, but only now i finally realize all the reasons why.

Alright, first 2 phases are not too bad. Combos are slow and predictable. BUT.

First of all she has insane poise and she loves to just facetank hits as she lands her own on you. You can't lock her into sword-clashing like you can do with Genichiro or Great Shinobi (or 80% of enemies, for that matter). Attempts to do that just cause her to tank the hit and hit you back. Kinda annoying after i got just used to doing that after fighting Great Shinobi (including memory).

Second of all, there's just something about her moveset... Something that i can't get my head around. She's kinda like the Dancer from Dark Souls 3 in this case. Attacks are way too delayed, getting perfect deflects on some of the hits is very difficulty for me because i always missread the telegraph.

And finally, THE CURSED THIRD PHASE.
I absolute hate it. No matter how well i do in first 2, the 3rd phase makes me look like a fool.
Mostly because she suddenly replaces all her thrusts with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror-spew attack, so there goes mikiri counter.
She also randomly replaces swipe attacks with it too!
So, after 2 phases where she teaches me to notice combos which always end in thrust or swipe she suddenly swapes them for an attack that can't be neither mikiri'd, nor jumped over.

Alright, i learned to forget about mikiri in phase 3. But she keeps triggering the jump reflex with combos that usually always end in swipes, and instead she goes for badly telegraphed terror-spew attack.
Good news: being hit by it point blank as you are mid-air after trying to jump over a swipe that was supposed to happen but didn't fills the terror proc from 0 to 100.

Also: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is she agressive in phase 3. Definetely reminiscent of the Dancer from DS3.

[goka9696]

What's the problem exactly?

Stealth kill first 2 phases and then spam firecrackers in third phase. You can take like half of her HP off or even more by the time you run out of them.

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by goka9696:

What's the problem exactly?

Stealth kill first 2 phases and then spam firecrackers in third phase. You can take like half of her HP off or even more by the time you run out of them.

The problem is that i refuse to use cheese and trying to beat her by mostly fair means minus few special combos that i use for my imaginary style points.

She just refuses to return the favor.
Its all that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror-attack... Everything else is mostly fine, its that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror attack that shaffles too many cards.

[goka9696]

Originally posted by Artek General:

Originally posted by goka9696:

What's the problem exactly?

Stealth kill first 2 phases and then spam firecrackers in third phase. You can take like half of her HP off or even more by the time you run out of them.

The problem is that i refuse to use cheese and trying to beat her by mostly fair means minus few special combos that i use for my imaginary style points.

She just refuses to return the favor.
Its all that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror-attack... Everything else is mostly fine, its that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror attack that shaffles too many cards.

So you are playing with a self-imposed challenge and complaining about the boss? Why?

[YamaTsunami]

Originally posted by Artek General:

Originally posted by goka9696:

What's the problem exactly?

Stealth kill first 2 phases and then spam firecrackers in third phase. You can take like half of her HP off or even more by the time you run out of them.

The problem is that i refuse to use cheese and trying to beat her by mostly fair means minus few special combos that i use for my imaginary style points.

She just refuses to return the favor.
Its all that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror-attack... Everything else is mostly fine, its that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror attack that shaffles too many cards.

The "cheese" argument is stupid. The boss was MADE to let you stealth deathblow and spam firecrackers. Cheese is when you make the Demon fall off the cliff, not when you use a prosthetic the way its meant to be used.

I can understand not wanting to do a fight a certain way but calling it cheese just annoys me.

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by goka9696:

So you are playing with a self-imposed challenge and complaining about the boss? Why?

I don't know honestly. Just always found bosses spicing up their movesets mid-fight to be an annoyance. Every hits taken this way just has this extra flavor of "♥♥♥♥ you".

Originally posted by Josh1.0:

Originally posted by Artek General:

The problem is that i refuse to use cheese and trying to beat her by mostly fair means minus few special combos that i use for my imaginary style points.

She just refuses to return the favor.
Its all that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror-attack... Everything else is mostly fine, its that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terror attack that shaffles too many cards.

The "cheese" argument is stupid. The boss was MADE to let you stealth deathblow and spam firecrackers. Cheese is when you make the Demon fall off the cliff, not when you use a prosthetic the way its meant to be used.

I can understand not wanting to do a fight a certain way but calling it cheese just annoys me.

I don't think it was "made" to get stealthed. I would consider that to be an oversight.
Especially considering you can only do that with certain overpowered sugar that needs a nerf.

Firecrackers spam is alright, albeit not very stylish.

[goka9696]

Originally posted by Artek General:

Originally posted by goka9696:

So you are playing with a self-imposed challenge and complaining about the boss? Why?

I don't know honestly. Just always found bosses spicing up their movesets mid-fight to be an annoyance. Every hits taken this way just has this extra flavor of "♥♥♥♥ you".

Originally posted by Josh1.0:

The "cheese" argument is stupid. The boss was MADE to let you stealth deathblow and spam firecrackers. Cheese is when you make the Demon fall off the cliff, not when you use a prosthetic the way its meant to be used.

I can understand not wanting to do a fight a certain way but calling it cheese just annoys me.

I don't think it was "made" to get stealthed. I would consider that to be an oversight.
Especially considering you can only do that with certain overpowered sugar that needs a nerf.

Firecrackers spam is alright, albeit not very stylish.

"You can only do that with sugar"

lolwat?

You can stealth kill her without using sugar at all. It's intentional. In second phase she disappears when you are on the bridge and appears when you get on the trees. This is not an oversight. In first phase you must be quick, sugar has nothing to do with it.

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by goka9696:

"You can only do that with sugar"

lolwat?

You can stealth kill her without using sugar at all. It's intentional. In second phase she disappears when you are on the bridge and appears when you get on the trees. This is not an oversight. In first phase you must be quick, sugar has nothing to do with it.

Oh? Not even with sugar? Weird.

[Engels78]

You are talking about True Corrupted Monk on the Bridge to Palace? Or this one near Mibu Village?

[goka9696]

Originally posted by Engels78:

You are talking about True Corrupted Monk on the Bridge to Palace? Or this one near Mibu Village?

The first monk only has one phase. He's talking about the second one.

[spreyz]

it's actually one of my ´top 3 fave bosses, because he requires such precise timing because of her many faints and i looove the music & setting

[HoneyDrake]

Originally posted by spreyz:

it's actually one of my ´top 3 fave bosses, because he requires such precise timing because of her many faints and i looove the music & setting

And once you actually learn her attack patterns... those are not even feints. Just similar looking attacks, but none of them transitions to something unpredictable.

[HoneyDrake]

Sidenote: this is another player not being able to learn basic game mechanics and would rather complain instead of getting better.

@OP

Yes, there are mechanics you can use to make it easier.
No, you don't even need to attack a single time to win against this boss, just gid gud.

[alicerinz]

I found her to be pretty easy. The terror attack has a very small range, so it's easily evaded even by panic dodges.

[Engels78]

Originally posted by goka9696:

Originally posted by Engels78:

You are talking about True Corrupted Monk on the Bridge to Palace? Or this one near Mibu Village?

The first monk only has one phase. He's talking about the second one.

Aaa right sorry it was "few" hours ago 😉

So with this Monk I screw as could not make DeathBlow from above at beggining of phase 2... So I fought all 3 phases. But... It was for me one of the easiest Bosses! Why...? Because I fought with it right after 5h (in 3 days) with Father Owl in Hirata. So I was so boosted up that this Boss took me like 10 minutes! And beat it in 3rd try! I would won in First try but I just wanted to cheese it and made a First health bar from sneak kill but it was after patch so I screw it up as now it is impossible... Second try I also tried to be too smart... So 3rd try I just beat it in good old fashion brutal way 😝

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by Honey Drake:

Sidenote: this is another player not being able to learn basic game mechanics and would rather complain instead of getting better.

@OP

Yes, there are mechanics you can use to make it easier.
No, you don't even need to attack a single time to win against this boss, just gid gud.

Considering that i fought her before (at least 2 times) (its NG+4 but i had a shura ending or two) i already learned enough about her.
Whatever cheese tactics there are - i'm not interested.

The context of the situation is that i'm trying to perform particularly well against her to put up a good show. Not even talking no-hit / no damage, just a good, rhytmic well-measured fight. Unfortunately she keeps ruining it in her 3rd phase with her unpredictable movesets and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spew attack.

I think that my main issue with her right now is that she punishes being offensive with her poise. So one must instead go into passive-defensive punish mode. Let her attack, deflect, punish. 1-2 hits, and back off.

This is a huge contrast with The Father bossfight, where being offensive was extremely rewarding and encouraged. She's like 30% slower and more methodical than The Father, and i'm failing to re-adjust.

There is one more attack that pisses me off that i didn't mention. She performs it especially often in phase 3: extremely quick over-head slash. Just a little bit too quick. I have enough reaction to deflect it 40% of the time, all the other times i get smashed into the bridge, which is humiliating to me because I KNOW I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CAN SO WHY DONT I.

EDIT: well, i know why, actually - because more often than not she performs it when i'm trying to get offensive again (my fault), so she just poises through my hit, i dont get to deflect because recovery and there goes my spine.