Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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Big Shaq Sep 29, 2019 @ 10:29am
Is this game too easy?
I saw that the completion rate was really high for this game and a lot of people saying that it's easier than Dark Souls because you can simply block all attacks.

I really like to play very difficult games and I'm wondering if this one will be difficult enough for me to enjoy or not.

What do you guys think?
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DriedVegetable Sep 29, 2019 @ 11:04am 
Some people say it is harder than Dark Souls. Also I guess that the many people avoided it and most of the players are hardcore fans. That being said some people quit on the Ogre.
Yorshka Sep 29, 2019 @ 11:18am 
hard to learn, but after you got the sense of it, it become easy to master.
and also the achievements is just a matter of exploration and collecting stuff. they aren't so hard to attain. it just like collecting dark souls 3 achievement but without PVP session.
borndl Sep 29, 2019 @ 12:34pm 
I would say very hard learning curve at first, followed by a very gently midlearning curve and finished by a hard one again. (getting perfect deflect and know every move)
For achievments the last part is not needed.
Last edited by borndl; Sep 29, 2019 @ 12:35pm
Artek [General] Sep 29, 2019 @ 12:37pm 
It is just as difficult as your average dark souls game.
I guess the thing about early Souls games, starting from Demon Souls and up to DS2 was that not only the combat was hard, but just dealing with the world itself - the level design, figuring out where to go and how - was also part of the challenge.

After DS2 they improved (depending on who you ask) on that by making games slightly more linear and its easier to understand where to go and what to do. But combat itself is still challenging.

Just like dark souls - the combat is simple in concept / execution, but hard to master as its heavily focused on enemy pattern memorization and muscle memory.
First 2-3 hours of the game will be painful, but then it will click, and after that game becomes both easier and more enjoyable as now any deaths you experience are caused by you simply not being adjusted to this particular enemy, and not because you have no idea what you're doing and your fingers press all the wrong buttons.

For me a good measure of how hard the game is - is how many times i felt genuine anger and / or rage.
For this game its about... 10 times, AT LEAST.
That's a pretty good score for a souls game.
Last edited by Artek [General]; Sep 29, 2019 @ 12:40pm
Artek [General] Sep 29, 2019 @ 12:49pm 
The high completion rate could aslo be linked to the fact that the game is more mod-friendly, so its quiet easy for people to find mods to make the game easier and actually finish it.
Just Aaron Sep 29, 2019 @ 1:14pm 
Mods are the reason for the high completion rate.
Rocket Witch Sep 29, 2019 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by Big Shaq:
I saw that the completion rate was really high for this game and a lot of people saying that it's easier than Dark Souls because you can simply block all attacks.
There is actually a much higher proportion of blockable attacks in Dark Souls than in Sekiro. In Dark Souls you can't block the "swords/fire erupting from the ground" spells, lava effects (including that of Great Chaos Fireball), ghost/Darkwraith/Snakeman grabs and that's basically all, but in Sekiro almost all bosses have some kind of grab or sweep which needs to be avoided rather than blocked.

Besides, what people probably mean is that you can deflect most attacks, which is a well-timed block, which is to say Sekiro's combat is essentially a sort of rhythem game; I'd wager the persons finding it easy are musicians or have a background in that genre. So if you're a god at Osu you might actually want to give it a pass, but most people aren't.
Also by completion rate, do people mean the Sekiro/platinum achievement?

Because Sekiro is much easier to get all the achievements for compared to Dark Souls. Sekiro's achievements essentially just have you beat the game to get all endings, whereas to get all achievements in Dark Souls, you're required to get all rare drop items and max a weapon in every possible upgrade path (which most will be useless to your build). Not to mention Dark Souls is a longer game to have to do multiple playthroughs of.
Last edited by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr; Sep 29, 2019 @ 6:36pm
Bruh, it's really hard at first, and then you get shinobi like refleshes and you feel like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ badass. Don't get me wrong. The challenge literally is always there. I struggle more than I do Dark Souls. I think Dark Souls was pretty easy. This takes discipline. Steep learning curve but you DO get more skilled. You kinda feel like an actual ninja which is the point of it I guess. They nailed it.
Magik Riktus Sep 29, 2019 @ 7:12pm 
Tbh, I think Dark souls is a lot easier, you can literally get a shield and keep it up (practically) at all times. In Sekiro at least, the attacks you "block", you have to get a good timing or you will take some damage. Also, this game requires you to be very aggressive when it comes to bosses. If you liked the souls series you should love this one as well.
pcdeltalink Oct 1, 2019 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by Bing The Twink:
Some people say it is harder than Dark Souls. Also I guess that the many people avoided it and most of the players are hardcore fans. That being said some people quit on the Ogre.

That's the one fight in the game I honestly didn't see the point of. It's literally run in circles around him until he attacks, get 1-2 hits in, repeat. You never get hit if you're careful but it's the most boring fight in the game I've done so far. He has so many grabs and such long reach on the grabs that direct combat is not practical, kiting is much easier.
Just Aaron Oct 2, 2019 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by pcdeltalink:
Originally posted by Bing The Twink:
Some people say it is harder than Dark Souls. Also I guess that the many people avoided it and most of the players are hardcore fans. That being said some people quit on the Ogre.

That's the one fight in the game I honestly didn't see the point of. It's literally run in circles around him until he attacks, get 1-2 hits in, repeat. You never get hit if you're careful but it's the most boring fight in the game I've done so far. He has so many grabs and such long reach on the grabs that direct combat is not practical, kiting is much easier.
You`re supposed to be using the Flame Vent. Or whatever its called. Set him on fire and you get about 20 free hits.
Last edited by Just Aaron; Oct 2, 2019 @ 3:57am
pcdeltalink Oct 2, 2019 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Just Aaron:
You`re supposed to be using the Flame Vent. Or whatever its called. Set him on fire and you get about 20 free hits.

I rarely ever use the prosthetic weapons because my natural instinct is to conserve the "ammo" for those unless I desperately need them. Honestly I hate that they have an ammo system at all as it made me so hesitant to ever experiment with them much. So far the only times I've really ever used them was the Shurikens on Lady Butterfly and the purple umbrella thing (forgot the name) against the terror laser beam miniboss. Other than that I've pretty much never used them the whole game so far.
Shoebsy Oct 2, 2019 @ 4:08pm 
A lot of the items are something i'd consider "Optional" There items that can easily be used to help players who like to mix up their chances.

The sword and sword skills alone can carry though though about 90% of every instance, But calling the game 'easy' is still a stretch.

Dark souls has had 3 games (5 technically) to get it's combat, it's method and it's philosophy into player's heads.


Sekiro has some of that DNA of course, so souls-vets can understand it a bit better, but sekiro still punishes you.


I recommend it, Beat the game once, than play without Kuro's charm. you'll be challanged even if you cheese it.
Northstrider Oct 2, 2019 @ 6:43pm 
Lol... I don't know what to say. There is no 'too easy' because it's a game. I know people try to act like elitist by measuring their completion success against other players but man, why do you even care? Not feeling great enough?
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