unobtainable relic

[ReaperLT]

Second mission of Tariq ibn Ziyad, relic is near toledo in to mountainm but it cant be taken, is it bug or unfinished map error?

[Woudo]

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Definitely seems unreachable. I looked through the map triggers and there is nothing pertaining to this particular relic. There's triggers for the top-left and bottom-right relics, but not this one.

Valid bug report unless someone else can shine some light.

[ilam]

If any relics you cannot capture, that's the right design. Author will not allow players to win with all relics captured.

[ReaperLT]

Originally posted by ilam:

If any relics you cannot capture, that's the right design. Author will not allow players to win with all relics captured.

but in other mission u can collect all other relics, yet they will not trigger countdown, so dunno, mb they where lazy to fix it oO just like Elite genitour not available in berber campaign

[Woudo]

Originally posted by ilam:

If any relics you cannot capture, that's the right design. Author will not allow players to win with all relics captured.

Campaigns are not bound by that limitation.

[ilam]

Originally posted by ReaperLT:

Originally posted by ilam:

If any relics you cannot capture, that's the right design. Author will not allow players to win with all relics captured.

but in other mission u can collect all other relics, yet they will not trigger countdown, so dunno, mb they where lazy to fix it oO just like Elite genitour not available in berber campaign

Because wonder construction and relic capturing both can exist at the same time as the one of the winning conditions. This kind of game type called 'standard'. You can easily fine out that enemies will build wonder but player also can capture relics. To avoid this the authors will put a unreachable relic so why you will see it but you cannot capture it.
In some campaigns you collect all relics but there is no countdown. However, wonder construction will have no countdown displayed as well because their game type is set to 'conquer'.
Just see Khmer campaign 5 also, you will have the same issue however the design is not wrong.

[ReaperLT]

Originally posted by ilam:

Originally posted by ReaperLT:

but in other mission u can collect all other relics, yet they will not trigger countdown, so dunno, mb they where lazy to fix it oO just like Elite genitour not available in berber campaign

Because wonder construction and relic capturing both can exist at the same time as the one of the winning conditions. This kind of game type called 'standard'. You can easily fine out that enemies will build wonder but player also can capture relics. To avoid this the authors will put a unreachable relic so why you will see it but you cannot capture it.
In some campaigns you collect all relics but there is no countdown. However, wonder construction will have no countdown displayed as well because their game type is set to 'conquer'.
Just see Khmer campaign 5 also, you will have the same issue however the design is not wrong.

seems reasonable, and seems that AoE2HD have same thing, so it means that relic was put there for reason :/

[Woudo]

Looks like ilam is absolutely right. The victory condition is set to Standard and moving the relic off the mountain into a reachable area and then capturing it; relic victory countdown does begin. I guess you can set this thread to answered.

Thanks for that, ilam.

[ReaperLT]

aye, ty for your help lads