Can we get a China DLC

[texasgoldrush]

Seriously, AOE2 has very little single player Chinese scenarios.

Why not have a Chronicles DLC for them after Greece. Maybe a tour through the dynasties.

[MohaM]

great idea

[James3157]

Chinese getting dlc I think is more likely for normal AoE II: DE instead of AoE II: DE Chronicles. The Chinese are mostly likely not going to be one of the next Chronicles civs because of its conflict with Macedonians and other neighboring civs that are geographically a lot closer to the Macedonians than the Chinese such as the Egyptians, Armenians, Indians, Syracusans, and Thracians to name just a few examples of this. If I am not mistaken World's Edge and Microsoft still plan on making more dlc that is not limited to only just Chronicles meaning that there is still potential for Tibet and perhaps Thai being added along with a campaign for the Chinese.

I am not sure if Koreans really need a campaign or not because they were a small country that I think never had an empire or only a small empire at best whose empire historically was smaller than Tibet's empire, but it makes more sense for the Chinese to have an actual campaign instead of only just a historical battle. The Chinese not having a campaign besides AoE III: DE and AoM: Extended was a missed opportunity where we are still waiting for them to get an official campaign on AoE II: DE. My best guess for a Chinese dlc not related to Chronicles is that the Chinese get a three sword campaign (mainly because due to the fact that the Chinese historical battle is the hardest historical battle I ever played I would expect a similar approach with dlc where the Chinese get the hardest campaign from this dlc), Tibet gets a two sword campaign, and Thai gets a one sword campaign.

[Crossil]

The Chronicles team set their focus on the Greek and Roman worlds, to my understanding. Only peripheral elements that get added are those that Greek and Roman cultures interacted with. The mod I'm surmising this from, the Romae ad Bellum mod, only did the Han dynasty, probably due to the conflict between the Han dynasty and the Graeco-Bactrian Kingdom. I surmise this is also the reason why Korea and Japan are not present in the mod at all.

As for base AoE2, you would probably have Khitans, Jurchens, Tanguts, Tibetans and other such civs which were adjacent to China, but you wouldn't get divided Chinese dynasties like Tang, Song, Ming and so on as their own civs. The same way you wouldn't have different dynasties of the Byzantine Empire.

[Silver]

given the thematic background and slides in chinese style, i sort of consider sun tzu's art of war as the chinese campaign, lol. even if it is only a collection of teaching playstyles mostly required for multiplayer. but then, the william wallace campaign is also affected by learn to play mechanics especially in the initial scenarios.

but to OP, if you want to bridge the wait until something official is released, search for "Zheng He voyages" in the mods/workshop. It doesn't have audio narration, but takes campaign slide artwork from already existing campaigns and has readable text (occasional weird phrasing due to being translated into english from chinese), has 6 scenarios, and tells a good story, although on any difficulty level it is still much harder than most of the official campaigns set in the medieval period and you have to deal with pop caps of more than 200.

[JaxonBest]

We should have an East Asian DLC. Particularly, Jurchens, Khitans and Tanguts along with a Chinese remade.

[James3157]

Originally posted by JaxonBest:

We should have an East Asian DLC. Particularly, Jurchens, Khitans and Tanguts along with a Chinese remade.

No, I will only accept a dlc for Tibet, Chinese with no split, and Thai. The problem with Jurchens, Khitans, and Tanguts is that their range overlaps the Chinese and do not specifically stand out as much in comparison to the Mongols which would help explain why Genghis Kahn has a campaign. Tibet makes perfect sense, because they were independent from China most of the time until the 20th century.

The Chinese getting split in addition to getting Jurchens, Khitans, and Tanguts would be based on at least five (if that includes Tibet which does not overlap and the Chinese only get split in half instead of split into three civs) or six civs that could potentially overlap in range. Also, I do not think that World's Edge and Microsoft want to split China and rename them, but adding Tibet does not require splitting the Chinese civ and renaming them. I think that the only reason why the Chinese do not have a full campaign yet is because of their complicated history during this game's time period.

[texasgoldrush]

I think a China Chronicles would be best, and make it feel like we are going from the first AoE to the second through the dynasties, hell, even go as far as the fall of the Ming to the Qing.

[James3157]

Originally posted by texasgoldrush:

I think a China Chronicles would be best, and make it feel like we are going from the first AoE to the second through the dynasties, hell, even go as far as the fall of the Ming to the Qing.

Maybe a Chronicles dlc for Chinese is eventually possible but it would probably be low on the priority list for new civs to be added to this game meaning they would not be added until much later and I would not entirely rule out a dlc on the main game for Chinese getting a campaign plus two other new civs that are not Chronicles related. The only civs I think that might never get a full campaign on the main game are Mayans and definitely the Vikings (mainly because of their involvements in historical battles and V&V dlc), Japanese (mainly because of similar to the Vikings), and Koreans (because they never had a large empire and historically during this time period only had conflict with the Chinese, Japanese, and perhaps Mongols but was rare at the same time). The Chinese specifically stand out more than any of those three civs I mentioned in needing a full campaign on the main game. Other civs that could potentially get full campaigns eventually besides Chinese but I am not certain include the Magyars, Turks, and Slavs.

[hankshandy]

i'd recommend OP (and anyone else) to check out Three kingdoms 1, 2 &3 custom campaigns. all chinese, lots of replayability

[Plokmijnuh]

I imagine a China Campaign would be added to the main game and not through chronicles.

There are Chinese custom campaigns, Three Kingdoms 1,2,3 is a Dynasty Warriors rpg series.

Winged Hussar has two Chinese campaigns that are good. One is the founding of the Ming Dynasty and the fall of the Yuan Dynasty.

Koreans have many custom campaigns that revolve around the three kingdoms period of Baekje, Silla, and Gorgeyeo where Emperor Taizong of the Tang got involved as an "ally" to Silla. There are also custom campaigns with Koreans for Samurai invasion and Mongol Invasion and something could be done for them.

There could even be a campaign of the early days of the Joseon Kingdom.

Mayans have some custom campaigns that are good like Jade Shadows II and Balak by Winged Hussar. It could be done.

Vikings could also get a campaign and they have full length custom campaigns in workshop about the invasions and activities they did in England and Scotland. They fought Northrumbia, Wessex etc.

There is even one that focuses on events in Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

Turls have some cool campaigns like Alp Arslan (pre gunpowder Seljuks), Mehmed II (multiple content creators); Selim the Grim (grandson of Mehmed II).

Slavs could even do overlap with Algirdis and Kestutis and focus on Dmitry of Moscow.

[James3157]

Originally posted by Plokmijnuh:

I imagine a China Campaign would be added to the main game and not through chronicles.

There are Chinese custom campaigns, Three Kingdoms 1,2,3 is a Dynasty Warriors rpg series.

Winged Hussar has two Chinese campaigns that are good. One is the founding of the Ming Dynasty and the fall of the Yuan Dynasty.

Koreans have many custom campaigns that revolve around the three kingdoms period of Baekje, Silla, and Gorgeyeo where Emperor Taizong of the Tang got involved as an "ally" to Silla. There are also custom campaigns with Koreans for Samurai invasion and Mongol Invasion and something could be done for them.

There could even be a campaign of the early days of the Joseon Kingdom.

Mayans have some custom campaigns that are good like Jade Shadows II and Balak by Winged Hussar. It could be done.

Vikings could also get a campaign and they have full length custom campaigns in workshop about the invasions and activities they did in England and Scotland. They fought Northrumbia, Wessex etc.

There is even one that focuses on events in Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

Turls have some cool campaigns like Alp Arslan (pre gunpowder Seljuks), Mehmed II (multiple content creators); Selim the Grim (grandson of Mehmed II).

Slavs could even do overlap with Algirdis and Kestutis and focus on Dmitry of Moscow.

You did not not mention them, but while debatable I do not think that Japanese need a full campaign similar to the Vikings because of their involvements in V&V dlc plus historical battles where they are involved in multiple historical battles and V&V campaigns. Magyars, Turks, and Slavs should maybe get full campaigns because the only campaign they get is Vlad Dracula instead of having their own independent campaigns. Also, V&V and historical battles do not really count as official campaigns. I am just simply asking for a 5 mission campaign at least if possible for Slavs in addition to Magyars, Turks, and Chinese as well, but at least with Japanese and Vikings them needing a full campaign is more debatable.