Played my first ranked game

[ZAXX]

I'm a new player, did the tutorial and some single player campaign stuff so I hopped into multiplayer, within 8 minutes the guy was in the castle age, builds a castle on my doorstep, has 50 villagers and a bunch of troops, trebuchets etc in my town and I'm dead. Never again.

[Paulo Ramos]

DO you have all the gold medals from the tutorial art of war?

[ZAXX]

Originally posted by Paulo Ramos:

DO you have all the gold medals from the tutorial art of war?

not sure, i did the william wallace campaign

[Paulo Ramos]

Originally posted by ZAXX:

Originally posted by Paulo Ramos:

DO you have all the gold medals from the tutorial art of war?

not sure, i did the william wallace campaign

This is not a good tutorial because it only has some controls. Try art of war first and A.I on the hightest difficult first,

[DesertRose92]

Highest difficulty is overkill.
Start with the one below Hard (was it "normal"?!) and once you can out-macro it easily go against Hard.

You will properly also have more success if you play as a Civ with a straight forward game plan such as Franks (Knights), Britons or Mayans (both Archers).

[Kampfschwein Fjonda]

Ranked is competition, like Formula 1.

People who haven't had their frist driving lesson will not have fun in Formula 1.

William Wallace campaign is like a tutorial of how to open the door of a car (and maybe put the seatbelt on).

Do what Paulo said.

[ZAXX]

Originally posted by Fjonda:

Ranked is competition, like Formula 1.

People who haven't had their frist driving lesson will not have fun in Formula 1.

William Wallace campaign is like a tutorial of how to open the door of a car (and maybe put the seatbelt on).

Do what Paulo said.

Ok gotcha!

[DMg Halt]

Originally posted by ZAXX:

I'm a new player, did the tutorial and some single player campaign stuff so I hopped into multiplayer, within 8 minutes the guy was in the castle age, builds a castle on my doorstep, has 50 villagers and a bunch of troops, trebuchets etc in my town and I'm dead. Never again.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you're exaggerating for effect. You were probably playing on Empire Wars, which explains the 8 minute castle age. But the trebuchets can only get made in Imperial and there's no way you can Imp in 8 minutes.

If you play more ranked games, the ranked system will have a better gauge on your skill level, and start matching you with other beginners like yourself. It takes like 10 games to get there. If you quit after 1 game, well you probably shouldn't be multiplayer games anyway. No one likes quitters.

All ranked games are recorded by default. If you get wrecked by someone you can load the recorded game and watch from their perspective and see how they beat you. It's kind of like a Call of Duty Kill Cam.

Just keep in mind, everyone starts out where you are. They join a multiplayer game, assuming they're going to kick ass only to find out you got your own handed to you. Yea it sucks to learn the hard way to have your enemy defeat you so overwhelmingly and in such a way that you begin to question whether you ever knew how to play the game in the first place. You'll get over it, you just need to get a handle on your ego, and learn to be ok with losing.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by ZAXX:

I'm a new player, did the tutorial and some single player campaign stuff so I hopped into multiplayer, within 8 minutes the guy was in the castle age, builds a castle on my doorstep, has 50 villagers and a bunch of troops, trebuchets etc in my town and I'm dead. Never again.

It sounds like Empire Wars. Did the game start in Feudal Age? If so, the 8 minute Castle sounds normal for that mode.

Edit: Yep, it was Empire Wars indeed - that mode can be intimidating for new players as it puts its focus on the mid game. (Source - your aoe2.net profile: https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-matches-76561198009260426 )

As the others pointed out - try the Art of War missions (especially Early Economy, Booming and maybe Land Battle) to get the basics :) And be sure to queue up for Random Map as that's the most played mode.

[ZAXX]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

Originally posted by ZAXX:

I'm a new player, did the tutorial and some single player campaign stuff so I hopped into multiplayer, within 8 minutes the guy was in the castle age, builds a castle on my doorstep, has 50 villagers and a bunch of troops, trebuchets etc in my town and I'm dead. Never again.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you're exaggerating for effect. You were probably playing on Empire Wars, which explains the 8 minute castle age. But the trebuchets can only get made in Imperial and there's no way you can Imp in 8 minutes.

If you play more ranked games, the ranked system will have a better gauge on your skill level, and start matching you with other beginners like yourself. It takes like 10 games to get there. If you quit after 1 game, well you probably shouldn't be multiplayer games anyway. No one likes quitters.

All ranked games are recorded by default. If you get wrecked by someone you can load the recorded game and watch from their perspective and see how they beat you. It's kind of like a Call of Duty Kill Cam.

Just keep in mind, everyone starts out where you are. They join a multiplayer game, assuming they're going to kick ass only to find out you got your own handed to you. Yea it sucks to learn the hard way to have your enemy defeat you so overwhelmingly and in such a way that you begin to question whether you ever knew how to play the game in the first place. You'll get over it, you just need to get a handle on your ego, and learn to be ok with losing.

No no i am not exaggerating, he was in castle age in 8 minutes, another 2 minutes and there was a castle outside of my base, then trebuchets (or battering rams?) and infantry in my town. I can send the replay if you want - it was insane. I thought there was more time to actually build up. And no ego here, just didn't know that's kinda how ranked games go where it's like bumrushing the enemies base. Here's the game https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-matches-76561198009260426 )

[ZAXX]

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Originally posted by ZAXX:

I'm a new player, did the tutorial and some single player campaign stuff so I hopped into multiplayer, within 8 minutes the guy was in the castle age, builds a castle on my doorstep, has 50 villagers and a bunch of troops, trebuchets etc in my town and I'm dead. Never again.

It sounds like Empire Wars. Did the game start in Feudal Age? If so, the 8 minute Castle sounds normal for that mode.

Edit: Yep, it was Empire Wars indeed - that mode can be intimidating for new players as it puts its focus on the mid game. (Source - your aoe2.net profile: https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-matches-76561198009260426 )

As the others pointed out - try the Art of War missions (especially Early Economy, Booming and maybe Land Battle) to get the basics :) And be sure to queue up for Random Map as that's the most played mode.

Yeah it did start in Feudal! And that's cool that you can pull up the tracker, I will try out the art of war missions. And great to know about random map

[KaRma]

Try to get gold medals in the campaign "Art of War". After, you should download the mod: 'Interactive Build Orders' By Cicero in order to improve your skills.

You can improve watching games from pro-players or casters: T90, TheViper, Hera, Liereey...

[DMg Halt]

I also learned the hard way that extra time to build up is something you have to actively make happen for yourself. It will not be given to you, you'll have to fight for it. Walling, building placement, and scouting are good ways to have a heads up and respond before your enemy can surprise you.

Some maps make this easier than others. Maps like Oasis, Michi, Amazon Tunnel, Arena and Black forest are map layouts that allow for more time to build up. More open maps like Arabia or Four lakes, your best bet for more building time is to attack your opponent. They can't hit your base if they're busy responding to your attacks.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by ZAXX:

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

It sounds like Empire Wars. Did the game start in Feudal Age? If so, the 8 minute Castle sounds normal for that mode.

Edit: Yep, it was Empire Wars indeed - that mode can be intimidating for new players as it puts its focus on the mid game. (Source - your aoe2.net profile: https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-matches-76561198009260426 )

As the others pointed out - try the Art of War missions (especially Early Economy, Booming and maybe Land Battle) to get the basics :) And be sure to queue up for Random Map as that's the most played mode.

Yeah it did start in Feudal! And that's cool that you can pull up the tracker, I will try out the art of war missions. And great to know about random map

Yeah the AoE community has some neat sites and features to check stats :)

I also just took the liberty to download the replay of your game and take a look at it. Some general thoughts:
- You didn't produce (enough) villagers throughout the entire game. A general thing to keep in mind is to never ever let your Town Center fall idle as villagers are the backbone of your economy. Try to keep a 50/50 balance between Eco units (Villagers/Fishing boats) and military units
- Your opponent did something known as Castle Drop which can be powerful but also fail if you manage to kill their construction villagers

Also, as Megan pointed out: Cicero's BO guide is super helpful. I learnt my first BO with it - the Scout Rush :)

[Quarantined_villager]

Keep playing, the first 10 games are just to calculate your Elo, the next 10 are to adjust your current Elo; after that you will be match with people on the same level as you and you will have 50/50 chances to win. Have fun. It is not a matter of win or lose, just play

[ZAXX]

Originally posted by cM´ | Megan:

Try to get gold medals in the campaign "Art of War". After, you should download the mod: 'Interactive Build Orders' By Cicero in order to improve your skills.

You can improve watching games from pro-players or casters: T90, TheViper, Hera, Liereey...

Awesome ty!