Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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Handsome Shrek 2022년 1월 28일 오후 5시 10분
Coop campaign tours impossible
How are you supposed to beat the tours campaign? its impossible on hard
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joaosantos92님이 먼저 게시:
"Coop campaign tours impossible"
Can some of y'all even read the thread title? It's about the coop version, not the singleplayer one. I haven't really tried the most recent version of the coop (I think the beta version was easier), I'll say something when I do.

Everyone is legit flaming me because they didn't read my post. It's like the entire community is trigger happy to trash on someone for being bad, pretty sad lives if you ask me. it ain't impossible but on coop I found it unreasonably hard given that I completed every other mission easily. just wanted to know what other people thought.

the aoe2 community is a pretentious one where most reply like snarky quora bots. i suggest rewording your thread w/o a hyperbole as they dont take kindly to that
or use youtube/streams for actual advice.
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Gorilianul 2022년 2월 15일 오후 5시 10분 
I will try playing this my own way once Im finished with some regular/DLC campaigns both the single player and co op version. I remember it from HD 2013 aoe2, I finished it there. Wasn't too easy, neither too hard. I finished it there. Here not yet. I will give my own two cents about it once Im done with it.
joaosantos92 2022년 2월 16일 오전 1시 10분 
"Coop campaign tours impossible"
Can some of y'all even read the thread title? It's about the coop version, not the singleplayer one. I haven't really tried the most recent version of the coop (I think the beta version was easier), I'll say something when I do.
Handsome Shrek 2022년 2월 17일 오후 4시 15분 
Agarillobob님이 먼저 게시:
I don´t think this is genuine and OP is flaming or trolling

anyways it is one of the easier campaigns you can beat it in ~5 minutes probably
send all vills on gold, produce a few knights, immedaitely go to the enemy trade carts, let AI open the gates, travel in, get the carts, send them to your wonder GG

alternate way go to stone, place 3 castles inside of your walls if you are player 1 and then just get gold market abuse to get up to paladin, AI doesnt really use siege so produce 60 paladin and just run into the enemy killing all even the castle with paladin, might need to reinforce at some point

Buddy you start in feudal and both enemies attack your walls in the first 2 min, I timed it. You cant build castles and you cant build knights let alone paladins lmao. Were playing a different game, I'm not trolling your just arrogant.
Handsome Shrek 2022년 2월 17일 오후 4시 21분 
joaosantos92님이 먼저 게시:
"Coop campaign tours impossible"
Can some of y'all even read the thread title? It's about the coop version, not the singleplayer one. I haven't really tried the most recent version of the coop (I think the beta version was easier), I'll say something when I do.

Everyone is legit flaming me because they didn't read my post. It's like the entire community is trigger happy to trash on someone for being bad, pretty sad lives if you ask me. it ain't impossible but on coop I found it unreasonably hard given that I completed every other mission easily. just wanted to know what other people thought.
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drolo 2022년 2월 17일 오후 5시 05분 
Handsome Shrek님이 먼저 게시:
joaosantos92님이 먼저 게시:
"Coop campaign tours impossible"
Can some of y'all even read the thread title? It's about the coop version, not the singleplayer one. I haven't really tried the most recent version of the coop (I think the beta version was easier), I'll say something when I do.

Everyone is legit flaming me because they didn't read my post. It's like the entire community is trigger happy to trash on someone for being bad, pretty sad lives if you ask me. it ain't impossible but on coop I found it unreasonably hard given that I completed every other mission easily. just wanted to know what other people thought.

the aoe2 community is a pretentious one where most reply like snarky quora bots. i suggest rewording your thread w/o a hyperbole as they dont take kindly to that
or use youtube/streams for actual advice.
Moist Butt 2022년 2월 18일 오후 4시 47분 
Handsome Shrek님이 먼저 게시:
Moist Butt님이 먼저 게시:

https://gyazo.com/36cd4e3fcc93844797760563368e1411

got it on my first attempt... didnt even have any close moment. pretty easy and straight forward. I think I just got baited into wasting like 30min, but at least I did another campaign.
this is the single player campaign... you realise that right?

Someone said that coop is easier and I took their word for it. Did you beat this on single?
Moist Butt 2022년 2월 18일 오후 4시 49분 
Handsome Shrek님이 먼저 게시:
Moist Butt님이 먼저 게시:

it wasnt, he was 100% correct on you being bad lol. I should have known tho u dont even play MP. Hopefully you dont overestimate your abilities anymore. Also there was no champions. Do u mean longswords? I did kill yellow pretty fast so maybe didnt even have time to tech into champion.

Youre actually why the online community is toxic

lol age online community is one of the most mature one out there. I just get a bit triggered when ppl that only play against AI talk about balancing lol. Like just look at some of your reply when ppl say its easy. "We must be playing different games. You are just arrogant." That's not a player that wants advice. Thats a player thats complaining the difficulty is unbalanced because they think they are good at the game. No one likes crying noobs and you came across one at least for me. So call me toxic all you want it doesnt change the fact that this campaign is "possible" and that an average player like me can do it.

Remember no one randomly calls ppl trolls. The reality is campaign in general are very easy to experienced players so anyone that says its impossible literally comes off as trolling/noob crying. I hope you can understand where we are coming from.
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Moist Butt 2022년 2월 18일 오후 6시 19분 
Handsome Shrek님이 먼저 게시:
joaosantos92님이 먼저 게시:
"Coop campaign tours impossible"
Can some of y'all even read the thread title? It's about the coop version, not the singleplayer one. I haven't really tried the most recent version of the coop (I think the beta version was easier), I'll say something when I do.

Everyone is legit flaming me because they didn't read my post. It's like the entire community is trigger happy to trash on someone for being bad, pretty sad lives if you ask me. it ain't impossible but on coop I found it unreasonably hard given that I completed every other mission easily. just wanted to know what other people thought.

Change your title then. Your post came across as "I am good, but the balancing is awful". If you needed advice then dont call it impossible. You literally asked other ppl to do the campaign indicating that its actually so hard they cant.

Also here's your impossible tour campaign completed. I didnt want to do it, but I kinda have to now otherwise you can claim no one here that talk ♥♥♥♥ showed proof they did it. Dw this one is the coop one
https://gyazo.com/966f4e181e1db0b82166029f7d5df410

There's no medal for coop but i ss where it shows enemies defeated and you can see hard on the top. What are you going to say this time? I have an AI instead of another player for 2nd slot? If I came across aggressive just know there's a lot of these "game is too hard or civ isn't balanced." posts. Most of them are made by users with limited knowledge in the game. I hate it when ppl who knows nothing but talks like they are some pro.

Edit: Point being this whole discussion would have turned out completely differently if you were more humble about it. You call ppl that says it easy as arrogant or they must be playing a different game. No you are just worse lol. Also coop is easier assuming your coop partner is the same skill lv as you. You have more population in total and you require less micro since you have another person commanding those units. So no coop campaign isn't any harder than single unless you have a useless partner which would actually make it harder. This is why diante said its twice as easy with another person. In theory having another partner would make the campaign twice as easy assuming same skill level. I did it with AI for that reason to eliminate another variable. I also killed all the enemy AI to show i didnt cheese it in anyway.
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Xanathar 2022년 2월 18일 오후 6시 58분 
Co-op does seem insanely cranked up difficulty-wise compared to the solo versions. Seems like it needs a little more rekajiggering. Like, obviously the difficulty should be increased to make up for an additional player... but it feels like a bit much.
Woudo 2022년 2월 18일 오후 7시 01분 
Did it with an AI as both Charles and as Tours. As Charles it's as easy as just walking into greens base and taking the baggage train, but as Tours, it was a 1hr+ slog because Charles builds next to no military and doesn't get attacked, so you're weathering both green and yellow while restricted to 100 pop. Thankfully, Charles does eventually start slinging lots of resources, so you're able to drop your vill count and just rely on stimmy checks.

All that said, I wouldn't say it's super hard. Archers + ~5 Skirms early until you hit Castle, then transition into Pikes, and then push with Halbs/Trebs and keep LightCav in reserve for sniping siege. It's just stacked against you if you play with an AI. I recorded it, but no one wants to look at an hour long video of spacky-level gameplay.
Moist Butt 2022년 2월 18일 오후 7시 12분 
Woudo님이 먼저 게시:
Did it with an AI as both Charles and as Tours. As Charles it's as easy as just walking into greens base and taking the baggage train, but as Tours, it was a 1hr+ slog because Charles builds next to no military and doesn't get attacked, so you're weathering both green and yellow while restricted to 100 pop. Thankfully, Charles does eventually start slinging lots of resources, so you're able to drop your vill count and just rely on stimmy checks.

All that said, I wouldn't say it's super hard. Archers + ~5 Skirms early until you hit Castle, then transition into Pikes, and then push with Halbs/Trebs and keep LightCav in reserve for sniping siege. It's just stacked against you if you play with an AI. I recorded it, but no one wants to look at an hour long video of spacky-level gameplay.

yup can confirm that charles was useless when playing as tours and took about a hour. I assumed OP played with another person tho otherwise I dont see the point in coop campaign. With another person it should be a lot easier than SP unless both are bad lul.
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Handsome Shrek 2022년 2월 20일 오후 12시 47분 
Moist Butt님이 먼저 게시:
Handsome Shrek님이 먼저 게시:

Everyone is legit flaming me because they didn't read my post. It's like the entire community is trigger happy to trash on someone for being bad, pretty sad lives if you ask me. it ain't impossible but on coop I found it unreasonably hard given that I completed every other mission easily. just wanted to know what other people thought.

Change your title then. Your post came across as "I am good, but the balancing is awful". If you needed advice then dont call it impossible. You literally asked other ppl to do the campaign indicating that its actually so hard they cant.

Also here's your impossible tour campaign completed. I didnt want to do it, but I kinda have to now otherwise you can claim no one here that talk ♥♥♥♥ showed proof they did it. Dw this one is the coop one
https://gyazo.com/966f4e181e1db0b82166029f7d5df410

There's no medal for coop but i ss where it shows enemies defeated and you can see hard on the top. What are you going to say this time? I have an AI instead of another player for 2nd slot? If I came across aggressive just know there's a lot of these "game is too hard or civ isn't balanced." posts. Most of them are made by users with limited knowledge in the game. I hate it when ppl who knows nothing but talks like they are some pro.

Edit: Point being this whole discussion would have turned out completely differently if you were more humble about it. You call ppl that says it easy as arrogant or they must be playing a different game. No you are just worse lol. Also coop is easier assuming your coop partner is the same skill lv as you. You have more population in total and you require less micro since you have another person commanding those units. So no coop campaign isn't any harder than single unless you have a useless partner which would actually make it harder. This is why diante said its twice as easy with another person. In theory having another partner would make the campaign twice as easy assuming same skill level. I did it with AI for that reason to eliminate another variable. I also killed all the enemy AI to show i didnt cheese it in anyway.

You're a walking contradiction and a menace to online discussions.
Moist Butt 2022년 2월 20일 오후 12시 52분 
Handsome Shrek님이 먼저 게시:
Moist Butt님이 먼저 게시:

Change your title then. Your post came across as "I am good, but the balancing is awful". If you needed advice then dont call it impossible. You literally asked other ppl to do the campaign indicating that its actually so hard they cant.

Also here's your impossible tour campaign completed. I didnt want to do it, but I kinda have to now otherwise you can claim no one here that talk ♥♥♥♥ showed proof they did it. Dw this one is the coop one
https://gyazo.com/966f4e181e1db0b82166029f7d5df410

There's no medal for coop but i ss where it shows enemies defeated and you can see hard on the top. What are you going to say this time? I have an AI instead of another player for 2nd slot? If I came across aggressive just know there's a lot of these "game is too hard or civ isn't balanced." posts. Most of them are made by users with limited knowledge in the game. I hate it when ppl who knows nothing but talks like they are some pro.

Edit: Point being this whole discussion would have turned out completely differently if you were more humble about it. You call ppl that says it easy as arrogant or they must be playing a different game. No you are just worse lol. Also coop is easier assuming your coop partner is the same skill lv as you. You have more population in total and you require less micro since you have another person commanding those units. So no coop campaign isn't any harder than single unless you have a useless partner which would actually make it harder. This is why diante said its twice as easy with another person. In theory having another partner would make the campaign twice as easy assuming same skill level. I did it with AI for that reason to eliminate another variable. I also killed all the enemy AI to show i didnt cheese it in anyway.

You're a walking contradiction and a menace to online discussions.

"classic useless steam comment. go back to reddit."
"if yall are so good have a go now and tell me how it goes"
"Were playing a different game, I'm not trolling your just arrogant."
"it ain't impossible but on coop I found it unreasonably hard given that I completed every other mission easily. just wanted to know what other people thought."

LOL i am a walking contradiction? Have you read what you wrote? Just the part where you ask ppl for opinion and then bash ppl them for giving a opinion you dont agree makes you a walking contradiction. You know someone lost the argument when all the replies are insult with no ounce of fact.

You asked ppl to have a go and i showed u it can be done. You lost here. You talk about toxicity, but then you are insulting ppl here too. You are hypocrite. Some of these replies I quoted where replies to ppl giving u actual advice too thats the sad part. Like I said you didnt come here looking for advice, but I guess its hard to admit.
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King_B 2022년 2월 20일 오후 1시 17분 
I have no idea what is going on in this thread and at this point I don't even care enough to look through all comments.

I'm just here to tell, tours is not impossible on hard.
I have done it with a friend before. But I don't have actual advice to suggest as i don't remember much. What I do remember for hard in coop is that you have to be quick. Just be quick and adjust quickly. Knowing what is going to happen from singleplayer might help a lot get the prediction right so you can plan accordingly. That is, if you are not good at improvising. That is all I have to say.

Maybe at this point you already done it and people just like to fight each other over nothing. In that case, gg to everyone. I feel sorry for everyone who thinks, they need to win an argument. Clearly the original poster had an issue and the only right thing to do was to provide him with possible solutions/ bits and pieces of what is helpful.

Kudos to everyone who just looked for actual solutions instead of engaging in worthless, time wasting and idiotic arguments :)
Hatch 2022년 2월 20일 오후 3시 34분 
It's always hilarious when people play a game on the hardest difficulty and then complain that it's 'too hard'. That is why games have multiple difficulty settings.
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