ROR More old campaigns?

[Medve]

Will we get any more of them?

[Godest]

I doubt it, but i was hoping for more

[K1tt3nM4ng0]

Doesn't look likely, unless the DLC they're working on is for RoR? (I don't genuinely think they're working on a RoR DLC.)

[James3157]

I highly doubt it. If Forgotten Empires were to add more old campaigns to RoR they would have let us know at least a few months ago or earlier rather than make us wait a year or longer since they last added more to RoR with more campaigns which November is less than two months away at this point and the last time Forgotten Empires has added any new campaigns to this dlc.

[Godest]

Yea pretty safe to say they have moved on from that sadly

[BirbNotBird]

As an AOE series player, I see the answer is just a "Big No NO. You guys don't like it. We are not doing it anymore. Happy?"

Long answer:

To play ROR requires DLC for base game. Imagine buying AOE1DE and then "AOE1 Definitively Definitive is in AOE2". It's such a horrendous no braincell marketing. To top that off, the DLC is a freaking greedy cashgrab that have bloated features for most people. (Seriously, separation of DLC contents would have be a better idea). Will we buy DLC for DLC in the future?

ROR balance is definitively way too off and corny-ish? Ported campaigns' quality made me not regret purchasing AOE1DE (It's way more fun there).

That said, I love ROR. The new quality of life feels great and fun, especially for the guy who plays nothing but campaigns and tampering with scenario editors for movie, cinematic and town building. Shame that ROR is a product of love, but having the worst choice in term of selling. I cannot help but thinking they really want to bury the hatchet with AOE1 series.

[James3157]

Originally posted by BirbNotBird:

As an AOE series player, I see the answer is just a "Big No NO. You guys don't like it. We are not doing it anymore. Happy?"

Long answer:

To play ROR requires DLC for base game. Imagine buying AOE1DE and then "AOE1 Definitively Definitive is in AOE2". It's such a horrendous no braincell marketing. To top that off, the DLC is a freaking greedy cashgrab that have bloated features for most people. (Seriously, separation of DLC contents would have be a better idea). Will we buy DLC for DLC in the future?

ROR balance is definitively way too off and corny-ish? Ported campaigns' quality made me not regret purchasing AOE1DE (It's way more fun there).

That said, I love ROR. The new quality of life feels great and fun, especially for the guy who plays nothing but campaigns and tampering with scenario editors for movie, cinematic and town building. Shame that ROR is a product of love, but having the worst choice in term of selling. I cannot help but thinking they really want to bury the hatchet with AOE1 series.

The newest campaigns added to RoR are at least disappointing if not terrible. Hardly any challenge to them at all even on hard difficulty contrary to most of the AoE: DE campaigns besides Yamato campaign (because it overall seemed like more of a tutorial campaign than an actual challenge even on AoE: DE but at least it was fun) and ported multiplayer on RoR is even worse. Some people perhaps might like Holy Man mission more on RoR than Holy Man mission on AoE: DE, but that seems to be the only exception here when it comes to newest campaigns. Also, some people might buy RoR only because they want to play the new Roman civ and do not really care about anything else from this dlc that involves the ported part of this game. If the Romans for example were to be sold for only $5 and sold separately from the other part of RoR I think it could definitely have had better Steam reviews than in the 40% range such as the 60% range instead of less than 50% positive where RoR's Steam ratings seem to be improving on Steam that has better Steam reviews than when it first came out, but slowly.

[Peib]

Originally posted by James3157:

Originally posted by BirbNotBird:

As an AOE series player, I see the answer is just a "Big No NO. You guys don't like it. We are not doing it anymore. Happy?"

Long answer:

To play ROR requires DLC for base game. Imagine buying AOE1DE and then "AOE1 Definitively Definitive is in AOE2". It's such a horrendous no braincell marketing. To top that off, the DLC is a freaking greedy cashgrab that have bloated features for most people. (Seriously, separation of DLC contents would have be a better idea). Will we buy DLC for DLC in the future?

ROR balance is definitively way too off and corny-ish? Ported campaigns' quality made me not regret purchasing AOE1DE (It's way more fun there).

That said, I love ROR. The new quality of life feels great and fun, especially for the guy who plays nothing but campaigns and tampering with scenario editors for movie, cinematic and town building. Shame that ROR is a product of love, but having the worst choice in term of selling. I cannot help but thinking they really want to bury the hatchet with AOE1 series.

The newest campaigns added to RoR are at least disappointing if not terrible. Hardly any challenge to them at all even on hard difficulty contrary to most of the AoE: DE campaigns besides Yamato campaign (because it overall seemed like more of a tutorial campaign than an actual challenge even on AoE: DE but at least it was fun) and ported multiplayer on RoR is even worse. Some people perhaps might like Holy Man mission more on RoR than Holy Man mission on AoE: DE, but that seems to be the only exception here when it comes to newest campaigns. Also, some people might buy RoR only because they want to play the new Roman civ and do not really care about anything else from this dlc that involves the ported part of this game. If the Romans for example were to be sold for only $5 and sold separately from the other part of RoR I think it could definitely have had better Steam reviews than in the 40% range such as the 60% range instead of less than 50% positive where RoR's Steam ratings seem to be improving on Steam that has better Steam reviews than when it first came out, but slowly.

Hello. I have both AOE DE and ROR. I started playing the campaigns when AOE DE was released but I found them very easy some of them and the AI acting weird. Is AI better than it was 7 years ago? I want to play the campaigns and being challenged by the AI, I want to struggle trying to defeat it. Shall I play AOE DE or ROR campaigns?
THanks in advance

[BirbNotBird]

Originally posted by Peib:

Hello. I have both AOE DE and ROR. I started playing the campaigns when AOE DE was released but I found them very easy some of them and the AI acting weird. Is AI better than it was 7 years ago? I want to play the campaigns and being challenged by the AI, I want to struggle trying to defeat it. Shall I play AOE DE or ROR campaigns?
THanks in advance

This is kinda a tough and hard to answer. Both game offers the same quality imo. I will comment with your intentions to face hard adversaries.

ROR: Original campaigns are really great and fun on Hard. I have good time playing with three of them. Ported campaigns from DE, however, too easy even on Hard since AI barely train anything scary to throw at you. At least modding scenes allow more fanmade scenarios, but the popularity do explain the lack of good numbers of scenarios.

AOE1DE: Good with their original campaigns (More official campaigns than RoR). Some maps had horrendous design (Probably took me some tries until I found out that how the map wants me to play), but it's like 5 to 10% of all campaigns. Overall like Hard OG ROR maps, you will get chucked at with many body piles. AOE1DE does come with bad pathing, and requires more attention than ROR.

Tldr: ROR with OG campaigns (The Sargon, Phyrus? and Rome). AOE1DE with their OG campaigns. Should rarely bother with ROR ported campaigns like James said.

Edit: In AOE1DE, AI is really unhinged. My experience for some of the maps was they tossing a huge chunk of armies into my base. This, however, is not carried over to ROR.

[James3157]

Originally posted by Peib:

Hello. I have both AOE DE and ROR. I started playing the campaigns when AOE DE was released but I found them very easy some of them and the AI acting weird. Is AI better than it was 7 years ago? I want to play the campaigns and being challenged by the AI, I want to struggle trying to defeat it. Shall I play AOE DE or ROR campaigns?
THanks in advance

I think that BirdNotBird made a good response here, but none of the newest campaigns contrary to the first three campaigns (such as Sargon, Pyrrhus, and Trajan) seem like much of a challenge including even there last missions. I would recommend AoE: DE campaigns overall more than the newest RoR campaigns despite the pathfinding issues, lack of gates, and lower population caps on AoE: DE campaigns which do not really have much if any replay ability if you skip standard and moderate difficulty entirely by winning hard difficulty on first attempts if going straight to hard difficulty on first attempt. Contrary to the newest RoR campaigns I would not recommend hard or hardest difficulty on first attempt with AoE: DE campaigns besides maybe Holy Man where villagers attack your only priest when trying to convert if easier than hardest difficulty on AoE: DE but they do not do this on RoR regardless of difficulty settings. Holy Man is the only mission that seems like it is more fun on RoR than AoE: DE, because it is a lot easier on RoR than AoE: DE where some people cannot get past this mission without cheating on AoE: DE regardless of difficulty settings.

[Alexander]

I still hope the devs add all the old campaigns even if it does seem increasingly unlikely.

[Flakstruk]

It would be an added feature rather than the crux of the offering.

But the whole character of the dlcs and events has changed drastically the last year. Quite concerning

[Crossil]

There were a couple of scenarios in the Greek and Babylon campaigns that did take me a retry because I didn't know the strat.

But, yeah, I rushed out the imported campaigns from AoE1 on hard, without even trying standard or moderate.

Innovation and improvement in RoR really downgraded the old campaigns into inferior products.

I personally hope the entire AoE1 selection gets reworked into something more corresponding with the AoE2 standard, rather than just being imported.

[Daruwind]

Heck, I would buy DLC with some new campaigns adding those old ones as well... GIVE them back!!!!!

[James3157]

Rather than add more old campaigns back I think that Forgotten Empires could have actually added more campaigns that are actually new instead of recycled campaigns from a free update instead of dlc for dlc by adding three new campaigns not included on AoE: DE such as for example a campaign for Persians (four missions total for King Cyrus and two sword difficulty with the fifth campaign against the Egyptians from his son Cambyses II and after his death a video for his brother Bardiya or pretender Gaumata being overthrown by King Darius from assassination?), Lac Viet (five missions and one sword difficulty?), and Shang (five missions and three sword difficulty?) to name just a few examples of this where we get six campaigns that are actually new instead of three, but unfortunately I think that is highly unlikely at this point. RoR is best described as innovative overall, but its newest campaigns are overall not really new and exciting. The only reason for buying this dlc besides the Romans, some newly added features, and its first three campaigns are map editor, skirmishes, custom scenarios, and custom campaigns, but not everyone likes that kind of stuff or not really interested that much in that kind of stuff besides maybe getting achievements unlocked for playing every civ with skirmishes. Its newest campaigns and multiplayer are not good enough reasons to buy this dlc, because besides the Holy Man mission they are overall disappointing.

[Godest]

That would have been nice too