Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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TheFibrewire Dec 18, 2023 @ 7:21am
Is this the best remake ever made?
how can a company does remakes with such great quality? The gameplay is flawless and does not add any crap that kills the original. This game is just a 2D game but far far superior compared to all 3D offerings except WC3 and SC2.

How did they manage to nail this perfect remake?
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Quintem Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:11am 
Is this satirical?

Also this is not a remake, it's a remaster.
James3157 Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Quintem:
Is this satirical?

Also this is not a remake, it's a remaster.

I tried to find the differences between remake and remaster and here are a few of them where you can either use link or type in "difference between remake and remaster" from search menu where these four examples are the first four that show up from search results :

A remake tells the same story as the original but uses a different cast and may alter the theme, perhaps to a different cultural context - either in geography or time.

A remaster refers to changing the quality of the sound or of the image, or both, of previously created recordings, either audiophonic, cinematic, or videographic.

A video game remake is a modern version of a classic video game rebuilt from scratch, while a remaster updates relatively recent releases from the last few years to keep up with ever-changing technology.

In a remake, the game is reproduced from scratch, usually with a new engine and modern graphics, while in a remaster, the game's graphics are enhanced.

https://www.askdifference.com/remake-vs-remaster/
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James3157 Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:28am 
And so in conclusion regardless of whether you consider it a remake or a remaster it is still a big improvement from the original game that first came out 24 years ago.
Last edited by James3157; Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:29am
James3157 Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by TheFibrewire:
how can a company does remakes with such great quality? The gameplay is flawless and does not add any crap that kills the original. This game is just a 2D game but far far superior compared to all 3D offerings except WC3 and SC2.

How did they manage to nail this perfect remake?

It might be a good idea to edit your original thread by mentioning it as a remaster instead of reamake, but besides that mistake you made I do agree with you.
Last edited by James3157; Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:31am
Baba Yaga (RTS) Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:31am 
This remaster is by far better than SC 2 or WC 3. Not doubt.
Quintem Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by James3157:
And so in conclusion regardless of whether you consider it a remake or a remaster it is still a big improvement from the original game that first came out 24 years ago.

It's an enhanced remaster you could say because more content and features have been added. So it lives in an unusual place compared to most remasters. We welcome the continued support or I think most do. Remake very much is a ground up rebuild, new engine and new everything, sometimes voice actors may reprise roles but wholly new experienced based upon an old one. Maybe that's the key one experience. You went back and put somebody that had not played AoE2 in 20 years, they'd find themselves thinking it was the same game they played all those years ago, maybe they'll spot a few QoL features and changes here or there. Plus triple the civs :P


Originally posted by Baba Yaga (Ger):
This remaster is by far better than SC 2 or WC 3. Not doubt.

Starcraft 2 still has the best RTS campaign (gameplay wise if you want to be more specific) of any RTS game I've ever played, probably will for some time. Warcraft 3 is Reforged specifically is a nightmare but the original is still my favourite RTS and joint favourite game of all time.

My top 3 RTS are Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2 and Age of Empires 2. Depending on the mood of the pathing in AoE2 it's placement swaps with Starcraft 2. Staggering that 3 RTS games live in my top 10 games of all time.
pseudo Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by James3157:
And so in conclusion regardless of whether you consider it a remake or a remaster it is still a big improvement from the original game that first came out 24 years ago.
*gestures broadly at pathfinding*
jonoliveira12 Dec 19, 2023 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by Quintem:
Originally posted by James3157:
And so in conclusion regardless of whether you consider it a remake or a remaster it is still a big improvement from the original game that first came out 24 years ago.

It's an enhanced remaster you could say because more content and features have been added. So it lives in an unusual place compared to most remasters. We welcome the continued support or I think most do. Remake very much is a ground up rebuild, new engine and new everything, sometimes voice actors may reprise roles but wholly new experienced based upon an old one. Maybe that's the key one experience. You went back and put somebody that had not played AoE2 in 20 years, they'd find themselves thinking it was the same game they played all those years ago, maybe they'll spot a few QoL features and changes here or there. Plus triple the civs :P


Originally posted by Baba Yaga (Ger):
This remaster is by far better than SC 2 or WC 3. Not doubt.

Starcraft 2 still has the best RTS campaign (gameplay wise if you want to be more specific) of any RTS game I've ever played, probably will for some time. Warcraft 3 is Reforged specifically is a nightmare but the original is still my favourite RTS and joint favourite game of all time.

My top 3 RTS are Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2 and Age of Empires 2. Depending on the mood of the pathing in AoE2 it's placement swaps with Starcraft 2. Staggering that 3 RTS games live in my top 10 games of all time.
Starcraft 2 campaign is not even as good as the AoM campaign, let alone RA2's or TibSun's.
There are many RTS campaigns that wholly surpass it.
FTWO Dec 19, 2023 @ 1:18am 
I think it's a great idea they remastering a popular game like Age of Empires II. For a game that came out in 1999 and continued to have a massive player base... and then coming out with Definitive Edition, where we actually get maintenance fixes on annoying things that used to be in the original games but couldn't do anything about it because the game was the game, period... along with tweaks to improve certain things... and in some irritating cases, nerf certain things. Also being able to expand the game by adding new features, DLC's, more civilizations, even occasionally changing unit designs, building designs to more accurately display them.

A lot of people complain that Definitive means done, no more, nothing added, and hate that they continue to come out with more things in the game. I think it's freakin awesome that they can do that, even after 24 years. Yes, it is annoying that with every DLC you do have to buy it... but the way I see it... I like playing this game, I like that when something goes wrong they can fix it, even if it does take a while sometimes, or even in some cases their maintenance does cause a bug or a glitch... they still eventually fix it... and it costs money to run games and maintain them. So if you don't like that they do that, you can always return to Age of Empires II HD.
K1tt3nM4ng0 Dec 19, 2023 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by James3157:
Originally posted by TheFibrewire:
how can a company does remakes with such great quality? The gameplay is flawless and does not add any crap that kills the original. This game is just a 2D game but far far superior compared to all 3D offerings except WC3 and SC2.

How did they manage to nail this perfect remake?

It might be a good idea to edit your original thread by mentioning it as a remaster instead of reamake, but besides that mistake you made I do agree with you.

The definitions that you cited of remake vs remaster does allow for quite a lot of room for interpretation as to what is one or the other, and in those terms I think it out of line for you to say the OP made a mistake. It's not clear at all to me that a mistake was made, and I think the point of the OP remains regardless of opinion on the use of one or the other term.
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