Why no Japanese campaign?

[Zaph]

like it's weird right? Sengoku era, invasions of Russia, China, Korea, etc. yet no campaign.

[Paulo Ramos]

They had mostly civil wars and only a few battles with the mongols. Hard to do a campain with this.

[James3157]

Japan had a failed invasion towards Korea as well, but that is a historical battle where you play as the Koreans. Hard to add a campaign involving Japan involving this specific time period besides those two historical battles, but Japan (also known as Yamato on AoE: DE) does have a campaign on AoE: DE and perhaps in the future might have a campaign on RoR dlc as well. The biggest problem with Japan is that historically they do not have much conflict with other countries during time period besides conflict sometimes among themselves. And so, even if Japan were to have their own campaign in the future it would only be Japanese civilizations probably and nothing else. It might also need to be different as well than the two historical battles we already have on AoE II: DE.

[BirbNotBird]

Ah the story of AOE2.

Back then when released they only picked a few civs in the cast to have their own campaigns. So that leave Britons, Persia, Japanese, Chinese... to not have a proper campaign.

With recent DLCs that aims to give those civs a proper campaign, maybe in the future.

[Zaph]

I'm honestly fine with civil war scenarios. Lots of interesting possible scenes to pull off. Like what if you play as Oda Nobunaga or Tokugawa? Or instead of a whole campaign around one leader you play as different important leaders during important battles leading to unification chronologically.

[SpoOkyMagician]

Or you can always go with an Anime Style Campaign. :P (Just kidding but, it would be funny. I would love to play it.)

[pisaschitt_2002]

Originally posted by Zaph:

I'm honestly fine with civil war scenarios. Lots of interesting possible scenes to pull off. Like what if you play as Oda Nobunaga or Tokugawa? Or instead of a whole campaign around one leader you play as different important leaders during important battles leading to unification chronologically.

theres a giant mod on HD/AOC called sengoku, basically all civs got turned into japanese warring state factions. very well done graphics too, different japanese architectures/untis etc

[BirbNotBird]

Originally posted by Zaph:

I'm honestly fine with civil war scenarios. Lots of interesting possible scenes to pull off. Like what if you play as Oda Nobunaga or Tokugawa? Or instead of a whole campaign around one leader you play as different important leaders during important battles leading to unification chronologically.

Well Japanese officially got two historical battle scenarios.

You can try other fanmade mod related to Japanese too.

[Général_Darkjuan]

Good question. I want one

[Basarab Laiota]

There is a Japanese historical battle, dude.

[James3157]

Originally posted by Basarab Laiota:

There is a Japanese historical battle, dude.

Not just one, but two. Most civilizations in general do not have more than one historical battle, but there are a few exceptions to this and Japan is one of them in addition to the French, Turks (two historical battles plus one campaign mission), and Vikings.

[YuenDeMing]

Oh, now there is a japanese campaign

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by Paulo Ramos:

They had mostly civil wars and only a few battles with the mongols. Hard to do a campain with this.

Um... They fought China, Korea, western countries coming in, etc

[James3157]

Originally posted by YuenDeMing:

Oh, now there is a japanese campaign

Kind of from new dlc to some extent, but not to the full extent because an actual "campaign" needs to have at least five or six missions as well instead of it being a historical battle. Oda Nobunaga allows more than one way to play this historical battle with different Japanese civs meaning you do not just simply play it only once and not play again, but that is about it.

[IEatCats]

Originally posted by Paulo Ramos:

They had mostly civil wars and only a few battles with the mongols. Hard to do a campain with this.

Malay campaign

Mongols, Chinese, Khmer, Burmese and Vietnamese all only appear once while the majority of the scenarios are against Malay civs. Some were 'changed' for flavour than actual historicity (Khmer/Burmese/Vietnamese)

This already throws it out the 'mostly same faction enemies' are not good campaigns argument

[jonoliveira12]

Japanese were extremely isolated geographically and politically, and mostly fought themselves. Japanese empire building came in the late 19th century.
Before that they were constantly in a Warring States deadlock, even when they had peace, or the emperor had strong authority.

Japanese society and politics was not like the hyper-centralized chinese ones, tehy were very much like a mini-Europe, at the edge of the East, on their own archipelago, with a faith-based emperor (more like the Pope than an actual political emperor, most of the times), and numerous ambitious lordly houses, all vying for the throne of the shogun, which was the military leader of the country (a lot like the emperor of the HRE, or the kings of France and Spain).