Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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James3157 Oct 29, 2023 @ 6:16am
Cannot find a knight called Savar on Wikipedia
While the unit might look more historically accurate than Paladin and I appreciate the remake, the problem is the Wikipedia shows zero results for Savar knights. The Wikipedia does show Savar (such as Savar, Iran for example), but cannot find Savar knight anywhere. Were Savars actually used by the Persians and where is proof of this? Even if Persians did not have Savars during this time period I do appreciate this change since historically Persians probably did not have Paladins.
Last edited by James3157; Oct 29, 2023 @ 6:23am
Originally posted by gio.bruno:
The unique cataphract in the Bukhara scenario was once called Savaran, then Savar and now Sogdian Cataphract.

And according to the AoE wiki the Savar is indeed based on the sasanian Aswaran.

https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Savar_(hero)
https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Savar
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James3157 Oct 29, 2023 @ 6:21am 
According to this link from Wikipedia I could find evidence of Aswaran (also spelled Asbārān and Savaran) from Sasanian Empire (based on Persia) that look very similar to Savar, but they were not named Savar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswaran
Last edited by James3157; Oct 29, 2023 @ 6:22am
True Beard Oct 29, 2023 @ 10:36am 
You inspired me to do some searching. In Persian, the word literally means to sit, ride, or be on something; like being on a horse, car, plane, etc. In this context, I believe the Savar are riders, or horsemen.
Quintem Oct 29, 2023 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by Chipper Monk:
You inspired me to do some searching. In Persian, the word literally means to sit, ride, or be on something; like being on a horse, car, plane, etc. In this context, I believe the Savar are riders, or horsemen.

So it's a linguistic choice more than historical?

I know konnik is just Bulgarian for horseman.
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gio.bruno Oct 29, 2023 @ 10:58am 
The unique cataphract in the Bukhara scenario was once called Savaran, then Savar and now Sogdian Cataphract.

And according to the AoE wiki the Savar is indeed based on the sasanian Aswaran.

https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Savar_(hero)
https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Savar
durecellrabbit Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by James3157:
According to this link from Wikipedia I could find evidence of Aswaran (also spelled Asbārān and Savaran) from Sasanian Empire (based on Persia) that look very similar to Savar, but they were not named Savar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswaran

Yup, this immediately came to my mind. You also see it spelt as Asavaran. It's one of those words you get used to everyone coming up with their own spelling. Just buy a bunch of Sassanian (Which also gets different spellings) military history books to see.
True Beard Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Quintem:

So it's a linguistic choice more than historical?

I know konnik is just Bulgarian for horseman.

That would be my guess. I didn't know about konnik, but that would also confirm how they came up with the name.
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