Is this better than AoE 4?

[keba]

Is this better than AoE 4?

i am deciding to buy one of the games, which one is better?

[Chrøme]

AoE II DE is better. Just check players statistic.

[Kiwichris]

In a word: YES!

[Xautos]

miles better. for your single player experience, add the dlc's and you'll be enjoying nearly 40 campaigns! AoE4 has very few campaigns and it seems most of its purpose is multiplayer.

[TPTI]

If you play a match on the constant closed map picks - that you have to unban arena to ban them - and still get them instead of arena - for 40 minutes and lose because of pathing, try AoE 4 and see. This is a game where you have to remember what 'functions' don't work etc. or you can press a key and lose the game (attack move, where your pikemen stand still while scorpions mash them, waiting until 30 pikemen reduce to 1 pikemen to start actually 'attack moving' that I commanded twice - especially when they stand still behind skirmishers - and the second attack move command walks them into 1 tile at a mill that they stand in the bottleneck not moving).

[mmmcheesywaffles]

I have looked at AoE 4 and found it lacking much of the atmosphere of DE

[FloosWorld]

I wouldn't call either game better.

Personally, AoE 2 has much more going on to keep me invested into the game and will soon get a DLC that adds its predecessor as a separate game mode.
AoE 4 on the other hand has design choices I dislike and is still lacking basic features for a RTS.

If you plan to buy AoE 2, you could do so via this bundle to get the Return of Rome DLC right away that will add AoE 1 into AoE 2 :) https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/31630/Age_of_Empires_II_Definitive_Edition__Return_of_Rome_Bundle/

Edit: AoE 4 was made by Relic btw.

[Ernst Zündel]

Objectively YES. Age of Empires II, both HD and DE versions, are preferable to Age of Empires IV. The gameplay, mechanics, community, development history and even aesthetics look better. You are also able to emulate the factions of AoEIV with the present AoEII civilizations.

It seems that AoEIV was an attempt to "recreate" AoEII, also in a medieval setting, instead of continuing beyond the time period of its "predecessor" AoEIII (early Modern Era to 19th Century), in other words, "going medieval" instead of the Victorian Era and early 20th Century, also an "age of [colonial] empires".

[Xanthippus]

Aoe2 better imo , I hope aom retold is not gonna be developed by Relic.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Xanthippus:

Aoe2 better imo , I hope aom retold is not gonna be developed by Relic.

It's surely developed by Forgotten.

[markepedia]

Originally posted by Chrøme:

AoE II DE is better. Just check players statistic.

thats not neccesarily whats better, just whats more popular

[kucsidaveee]

Originally posted by markepedia:

Originally posted by Chrøme:

AoE II DE is better. Just check players statistic.

thats not neccesarily whats better, just whats more popular

If a game is better, it is usually more popular. There are exceptions, but this is not it.
Age 2 is clearly more popular because it is better.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by kucsidaveee:

Originally posted by markepedia:

thats not neccesarily whats better, just whats more popular

If a game is better, it is usually more popular. There are exceptions, but this is not it.
Age 2 is clearly more popular because it is better.

Specially because it is 2 decades older.

If a game is beating a 20 years more advanced successor, in playerbase, then the more popular game just has to be better.
AoE4 has more tech development and the evolution of the genre, backing it up. But it is still losing, which means it is just the inferior game.

[Dayve]

Originally posted by keba:

Is this better than AoE 4?

i am deciding to buy one of the games, which one is better?

AOE 2 DE has more content. Loads of campaigns, way more civs to play as, better music and so forth.

AOE 4 isn't a bad game or anything but compared to 2 DE it feels... kind of hollow and boring. Around 20 years ago when RTS games were still really popular there were tons of RTS games coming out and almost all of them ended up being forgotten within a few weeks of releasing because they didn't come close to the absolute legends of the RTS genre that everybody was playing. I suspect AOE 4 would've been one of those games if it had come out back then. People would've played it for a week and then gone back to AOE 2, Rise of Nations or whatever.

[mmmcheesywaffles]

There is pressure on Devs to continue developing their franchise t otake advantage of new hardware.

The leap in GPU technology encourages the addition of various graphical 'improvements' which can detract from the atmosphere generated by the older versions.

AoE2DE has brought colourful and sharp animated characters compared to the earlier versions. However, gameplay changes brought in with AoE3 meant very linear SP games [Remember most of the AoE Players don't play MP] when AoE IV turned up it looked great. However, it just lacks something that AoE2DE still has. Also AoE2DE has returned to a less linear game.

The same thing has happened in other franchises. Visual improvements don't always add what the customer actually wants.

[Wyl]

Was going to ask a question like this, was wondering how is the MP scene? Good for noobs?