Does the AI have infinitive resources?

[discworld]

Im almost finished with the romans campaign and this far every campaign map plays out the same. You have to spam the enemy with units because other wise they will over run you. It seems like they build 3-4 catapults and use heavy cavalry to attack in waves. If you destroy them another patch respawns and its infinitive. It seems like the AI has unlimited sources and faster unit production. Even when you destroy their housing nothing changes. To win you have to rush to get your army up and running and then run them over. It does not seem to be fair. And if you manage to get stedy supply of units then the AI is useless.

[Heimdall313]

No, don't think it cheats even on max.
You can choke it out of wood or smash housing to throttle its rebuild queues in Barracks. They spread units out and micro each individual unit, so they appear to have more units than they actually do

[K1tt3nM4ng0]

I personally share the OP's impression of an AI with unlimited resources, at least in the Roman campaign (the only one I've played so far).

[Vonklyce]

They don't cheat on skirmishes, but on campaign yes they DO cheat on some missions with infinite resources or at least triggers to make them spawn infinite units until you complete some specific objective.
For example, at Dos Pilas scenario, the enemy will send infinite amounts of units out of nowhere to raze your initial city. If you avoid triggering this and before that set up defenses where they spawn, you can actually see they appearing out of nowhere while your castles slaughter thousands of them.

[K1tt3nM4ng0]

Originally posted by Vonklyce:

They don't cheat on skirmishes, but on campaign yes they DO cheat on some missions with infinite resources or at least triggers to make them spawn infinite units until you complete some specific objective.
For example, at Dos Pilas scenario, the enemy will send infinite amounts of units out of nowhere to raze your initial city. If you avoid triggering this and before that set up defenses where they spawn, you can actually see they appearing out of nowhere while your castles slaughter thousands of them.

The OP mentions the Romans campaign, by which I assume he's talking about RoR, not AoE2. (Not that what you say is wrong, just maybe not relevant.)

[viktorhallo]

fairly sure they have either unlimited resources or get a large amount of resources every few min. atleast on hard, not sure on the lower difficultys. i remember in the original Aoe1 campaigns, they followed the same rules as the players and it was to easy even at hardest difficulty.

[Vonklyce]

Originally posted by K1tt3nM4ng0:

Originally posted by Vonklyce:

They don't cheat on skirmishes, but on campaign yes they DO cheat on some missions with infinite resources or at least triggers to make them spawn infinite units until you complete some specific objective.
For example, at Dos Pilas scenario, the enemy will send infinite amounts of units out of nowhere to raze your initial city. If you avoid triggering this and before that set up defenses where they spawn, you can actually see they appearing out of nowhere while your castles slaughter thousands of them.

The OP mentions the Romans campaign, by which I assume he's talking about RoR, not AoE2. (Not that what you say is wrong, just maybe not relevant.)

Well both games are the same thing now, so it's valid to assume that it works as just the same.
People always asks if the AI cheats because the game is too hard, and the answer is both "yes" and "no", depending on the context and game modes, so it is important to make it clear for those who still wonders how it works.

AI on campaigns = yes they do cheat.
AI on skirmishes = no they do not cheat unless you're using CD AI.

[discworld]

Im playing the Roman Campaign right now, Act , at moderate difficulty. Thanks for the info.. So basically, I have to find out what triggers the AI cheats and play it like that. One way on the final map I found out that building walls stops the AI (they seem to have problems with that and wount spam attack it like they do with my units). But then they build a wonder right when I start my main attack. And then the infinitive cavalry comes that is hard to stop. I found out that if you build a port then its even more difficult because then the AI has infinitive war ships that they didn’t have before. So nothing has changed, the AI is stupid and to compensate it uses cheats. Might as well use them to.

[dannyc2012]

No they dont cheat on resources atleast. i was playing 4v 4 (me vs AI enemy and team mates). Lost my Bengali AI teammate quickly which was a shocker since they do quite well with Rathas

We started running out of wood. Being a gold hoarder and boomer when playing i had built docks on Arabia to help with food eco

At the end its was either spam food+ gold units (trade) or Food+wood (bad idea) and reach my demise faster

Was attacking them with Dravidian light cav and luckily they resigned once destroyed a few buildings and i raided their trade (+2 Attack for scout line against Building Hindustani bonus plus +10% food on trade from Bengali team bonus helped)



Recently played as Romans. Lost because AI attacks the player who reaches Imp faster. Man can the Romans boom!!! 26:41 and i'm in imperial (with a few mistakes). All 4 of them attacked me. weird was one of my allies also dies. Cheating?

[dannyc2012]

In one of the games the AI was slinging resources

[discworld]

I haven’t tried the skirmish with AI. And above it has been said that the AI cheats in campaign, not in skirmish.

But still it takes the fun out of it when the campaign AI cheats to much.

[Barry Chuckle]

I don't think it cheats in skirmish - I only won my last game because it stopped being able to produce units to attack - though it still kept a large number behind to defend against my subsequent attack. There were still resources on the (ludicrous size) map, so I can only assume that the AI, while very capable, is unable to fully take advantage of resources beyond a certain distance from its starting point.

[FREEZA]

try skirmish, and you will notice that the `standard` AI acts like hard/extreme on comparison to the AI of AOE2 DE

[Marder]

try skirmish with unlimited resources for all teams. The AI is kinda insane.

[dannyc2012]

Originally posted by mahahahar:

try skirmish with unlimited resources for all teams. The AI is kinda insane.

oh yeah. Done that a year back and resigned. Couldn't make any inroad. Ai can wall off very fast

Gujaras Chakram thrower was pretty insane

[Kiwichris]

In AOE2 DE there is no cheating ai with infinite resources in skirmish. However I am not sure about RoR.

In one game I played only on moderate I noticed some weird behaviour. The ai literally covered the entire map with production buildings (dozens of every kind) right up to the edge of my town and then non-stop trained centurions and ballistas. Long after the gold had all been mined (and it was 1v1 so no trade) they were still spamming both of these gold intensive units in a never ending line of units coming to my town. Even with market exchange there is still no way it could have been legit. I played legit and ran out. Out of morbid curiosity I played on and tried to see how long I could last with trash units, and did so for quite a while against more and more centurions and ballistas, all but confirming my suspicions that the ai gold supply was unlimited.

Not every game has been like that one though (thankfully).