Stop working on AOE1

[meleander]

I am here to play AOE2, not AOE1. I expected at least one mission in AOE2, but was solely disappointed. We need to rally, so they stop milking us for money for moving a game they want to keep alive into AOE2 and start working properly on AOE2 content!

[TrioADC]

Jesus... all I really picked up from all this text here is delusions, and it is truly unfortunate to see.

Originally posted by Combi | Albert:

All i read is full ignorance for those defending the worst dlc ever released.

First of all aoe 1 and 2 uses genie engine, the same engine since 1993 so all the features could have been ported with ease, aoe 1 de is a different game cause the developing team was a different one, they were professionals but they couldn't polish aoe de cause microsoft cut off the funds and lots of the developing team were fired, the history was shared by one of the members in charge, aoe1 de is a superior game version, the water actually moves on that games instead of just being a visual effect in the surface like in aoe2de, aoe 1de uses multi threading instead of just one core, if the game is awful now it was cause microsoft left that game project die just few months after release, but it had more potential, if forgotten empires couldn't update aoe de is cause they don't know the code used on that remake and they are not willing to hire professionals so they just ported the graphic data and the units values and that's it, so you guys shouldn't defend this dlc cause is the easiest cash grab ever released.

I used to have 100% achievements but i am not buying ror dlc, cause it is not worht the money or my time anymore, i have aoe de on microsoft store since release and that game has been dead witht he same 50 active players in the MP since gaming zone days, those guys in vietnam are never going to move cause you need a modern gaming pc to play this game version, while you can play the OG game for free on any device perfectly fine.

So you guys keep defending their inpetitud from the the devs, they just broke the game once more and wait until the romans arrive to the ranked games stomping every single aoe2 civ forcing more legit aoe2 users to buy their broken civ to fight fire with fire.

[Heimdall313]

Look we're in Year 12 of Skyrim and Marvel Comic re-release 25+, creativity is dead, ambition suffocated long ago.
You're going to eat over-stimulated, recycled nostalgia because its all they have left.

Romans are a really fun civ in AoE2, I regret nothing of my purchase

[DUKAPb]

+1
No more AoE 1 here. If you want to play AoE 1 - go to AoE 1. Here must be only AoE 2.

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

+1
No more AoE 1 here. If you want to play AoE 1 - go to AoE 1. Here must be only AoE 2.

Spoken like a true orc.

[Juancito]

Worst DLC ever.

[meleander]

Originally posted by Dayve:

Stop whining about RoR. AoE 2 has basically reached the limit of what is possible with the engine. We already have more than enough civs to play as, we have tons of campaigns, it has been enormously improved in every imaginable way since OG AoE 2. It really doesn't need anything else.

Lol, AOE2 is popular mostly because of it's single player content. I learned how to play it playing missions, and nothing more. Then replaying them on hard. I loved it, and that's what actually made me play it.

And you know what made me play multiplayer? Dukes' DLC. I'm Polish, and after they added Poles I had a civ that I could feel is representing me. And I play as Poles almost exclusively. You say that there is no way to improve, and I say there is. You can split Slavs. Like Moldavian's, who would have a great campaign with Michael the Great. There are so many possiblities still open, and so many historical stuff to work on. Chinese could be split into Dynasties like Indians. Turks don't have their own campaign yet. Japanese and Koreans also. And it would be great to see for example first the Japanese attacking Korea, and then Koreans pushing the Japanese away. Or play as Oda Nobunaga, or Hideyoshi. And african kingdoms, there is still a lot. Also what about Hungary? One of the biggest and strongest factions in it's time. What about Serbs? Arabs?

[Markus1987]

Originally posted by Dan Taylor:

Worst DLC ever.

No

[Markus1987]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

+1
No more AoE 1 here. If you want to play AoE 1 - go to AoE 1. Here must be only AoE 2.

I feel sick at such arguments, I find the implementation so far good.

Also you can see who intelligently followed the announcements and knew what came to release and who did not.

[kenntak7]

True, it was not that hard.

[Rollo]

The only reason i bought this dlc is the romans in aoe2.
I only play AoE2, I don't feel like AoE1.
I've played all the new campaigns, the objectives and variety were great, but AoE1 isn't fun.
No castles, no unique units and bad monks feels bad.

I just don't understand why return of rome didn't come out as a DLC and big upgrade for AoE1 for $10.
And a $5 DLC for AoE2 Romans only and at least one campaign.

This is pure money making and as an AoE2 fan you are forced to spend money on content you don't want.

[Meogron]

Originally posted by Rollo:

The only reason i bought this dlc is the romans in aoe2.
I only play AoE2, I don't feel like AoE1.
I've played all the new campaigns, the objectives and variety were great, but AoE1 isn't fun.
No castles, no unique units and bad monks feels bad.

I just don't understand why return of rome didn't come out as a DLC and big upgrade for AoE1 for $10.
And a $5 DLC for AoE2 Romans only and at least one campaign.

This is pure money making and as an AoE2 fan you are forced to spend money on content you don't want.

Because AoE1 older engine couldn't allow all these changes they introduced in Return of Rome

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Rollo:

The only reason i bought this dlc is the romans in aoe2.
I only play AoE2, I don't feel like AoE1.
I've played all the new campaigns, the objectives and variety were great, but AoE1 isn't fun.
No castles, no unique units and bad monks feels bad.

I just don't understand why return of rome didn't come out as a DLC and big upgrade for AoE1 for $10.
And a $5 DLC for AoE2 Romans only and at least one campaign.

This is pure money making and as an AoE2 fan you are forced to spend money on content you don't want.

Imo in AoE 1's castles would be highly incompatible as that would require a heavy rebalance which would basically turn the game into an AoE 2 reskin. 1's pace in generally faster than AoE 2 and most games are fought out in Tool Age.

UU's could be okay and could be maybe trained in the Academy. However, after playing the Unique Unit mod for the OG AoE 1, I found they surprisingly don't add much to the game as their use is even more situational than in AoE 2. Priests in AoE 1 actually tend to be a bit OP as thier conversion rate is higher than the one from Monks in AoE 2.

AoE 1 DE uses an older version of the Genie engine and updating everything to be in line with the AoE 2 DE version of it in that game isn't really worth the effort and probably would exceed the budget the devs get to make addons/updates. So merging two games into one is actually a good move. You could argue tho that this DLC could have been released as a standalone game with a heavy discount for AoE 1 DE owners.

Well.. isn't every DLC/addon/game to some degree an attempt to make money? As OG AoE 2 took longer to develop than Ensemble expected, they squeezed in the Rise of Rome Addon for AoE 1 that already brought some features from AoE 2 into the game.
Sandy Petersen even called Doom 2 a "cash grab" and he was involved in making that game.
I am an AoE 2 fan, but I'm also an AoE 1 fan and couldn't be more happy to have two of my favourite games now in the same place.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Originally posted by Rollo:

The only reason i bought this dlc is the romans in aoe2.
I only play AoE2, I don't feel like AoE1.
I've played all the new campaigns, the objectives and variety were great, but AoE1 isn't fun.
No castles, no unique units and bad monks feels bad.

I just don't understand why return of rome didn't come out as a DLC and big upgrade for AoE1 for $10.
And a $5 DLC for AoE2 Romans only and at least one campaign.

This is pure money making and as an AoE2 fan you are forced to spend money on content you don't want.

Imo in AoE 1's castles would be highly incompatible as that would require a heavy rebalance which would basically turn the game into an AoE 2 reskin. 1's pace in generally faster than AoE 2 and most games are fought out in Tool Age.

UU's could be okay and could be maybe trained in the Academy. However, after playing the Unique Unit mod for the OG AoE 1, I found they surprisingly don't add much to the game as their use is even more situational than in AoE 2. Priests in AoE 1 actually tend to be a bit OP as thier conversion rate is higher than the one from Monks in AoE 2.

AoE 1 DE uses an older version of the Genie engine and updating everything to be in line with the AoE 2 DE version of it in that game isn't really worth the effort and probably would exceed the budget the devs get to make addons/updates. So merging two games into one is actually a good move. You could argue tho that this DLC could have been released as a standalone game with a heavy discount for AoE 1 DE owners.

Well.. isn't every DLC/addon/game to some degree an attempt to make money? As OG AoE 2 took longer to develop than Ensemble expected, they squeezed in the Rise of Rome Addon for AoE 1 that already brought some features from AoE 2 into the game.
Sandy Petersen even called Doom 2 a "cash grab" and he was involved in making that game.
I am an AoE 2 fan, but I'm also an AoE 1 fan and couldn't be more happy to have two of my favourite games now in the same place.

AoE1 needs a heavy rebalance anyway, as almost everyone predicted.

[meleander]

Originally posted by Meogron:

Originally posted by Rollo:

The only reason i bought this dlc is the romans in aoe2.
I only play AoE2, I don't feel like AoE1.
I've played all the new campaigns, the objectives and variety were great, but AoE1 isn't fun.
No castles, no unique units and bad monks feels bad.

I just don't understand why return of rome didn't come out as a DLC and big upgrade for AoE1 for $10.
And a $5 DLC for AoE2 Romans only and at least one campaign.

This is pure money making and as an AoE2 fan you are forced to spend money on content you don't want.

Because AoE1 older engine couldn't allow all these changes they introduced in Return of Rome

It could, it was only the question of cash grab, nothing more, nothing less. Like they were able to update AOE1 so farmers can walk over the farms (at the beginning a farm was like every other normal building. Same with queues, etc.

[meleander]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Imo in AoE 1's castles would be highly incompatible as that would require a heavy rebalance which would basically turn the game into an AoE 2 reskin. 1's pace in generally faster than AoE 2 and most games are fought out in Tool Age.

UU's could be okay and could be maybe trained in the Academy. However, after playing the Unique Unit mod for the OG AoE 1, I found they surprisingly don't add much to the game as their use is even more situational than in AoE 2. Priests in AoE 1 actually tend to be a bit OP as thier conversion rate is higher than the one from Monks in AoE 2.

AoE 1 DE uses an older version of the Genie engine and updating everything to be in line with the AoE 2 DE version of it in that game isn't really worth the effort and probably would exceed the budget the devs get to make addons/updates. So merging two games into one is actually a good move. You could argue tho that this DLC could have been released as a standalone game with a heavy discount for AoE 1 DE owners.

Well.. isn't every DLC/addon/game to some degree an attempt to make money? As OG AoE 2 took longer to develop than Ensemble expected, they squeezed in the Rise of Rome Addon for AoE 1 that already brought some features from AoE 2 into the game.
Sandy Petersen even called Doom 2 a "cash grab" and he was involved in making that game.
I am an AoE 2 fan, but I'm also an AoE 1 fan and couldn't be more happy to have two of my favourite games now in the same place.

AoE1 needs a heavy rebalance anyway, as almost everyone predicted.

Yeah, but they could balance that in AOE1DE. Not in AOE2DE, where they sneak it as a AOE2 DLC, that have a difference engine.