AOE is being ruined

[snipernoodle]

the amount of crashes and people dropping when launching has never been so high. this needs to be corrected or people are going to lose interest in the game. I host alot, and then launch only to have someone drop is getting so frustrating that Im thinking of taking a break. tired of wasting my time over and over

[_DoctorDoofy_]

a draw condition could be implemented where the game turns into a draw if a player does not resign in the appropriate way. or loose elo poiunts regardless of their game.

[snipernoodle]

I was not talking about ranked games

[Endeavor]

this game was very much trying to rekindle with its ashes and there was a real hope. but then aoe 4 came and some of the popular twitch casters left the platform which was a nail in the coffin. i cant stop thinking about that the timing was peculiar. its been dead ever since. people just lost interest and some moved onto aoe 4 which is basically a mobile game tbh.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Cutler Beckett:

this game was very much trying to rekindle with its ashes and there was a real hope. but then aoe 4 came and some of the popular twitch casters left the platform which was a nail in the coffin. i cant stop thinking about that the timing was peculiar. its been dead ever since. people just lost interest and some moved onto aoe 4 which is basically a mobile game tbh.

Lol, nope.

AoE2 has more than double teh playerbase of AoE4, and will likely triple it soon.
AoE4 is a basic, boring game, unless you nolife teh MP, which almost no one does.

[Blackout4711]

Originally posted by Cutler Beckett:

this game was very much trying to rekindle with its ashes and there was a real hope. but then aoe 4 came and some of the popular twitch casters left the platform which was a nail in the coffin. i cant stop thinking about that the timing was peculiar. its been dead ever since. people just lost interest and some moved onto aoe 4 which is basically a mobile game tbh.

This couldn't be further from the truth (not starting an argument fyi). AOE4 has done quite a bad job at taking AOE2's player base. If anything I think AOE4 will seriously need a lot more added to it in order to seriously compete with AOE2 both in gameplay and in fans switching over.

Edit: I'm pretty sure currently AOE2 has the highest interest and level of players since Age of Kings came out no joke.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Blackout4711:

Originally posted by Cutler Beckett:

this game was very much trying to rekindle with its ashes and there was a real hope. but then aoe 4 came and some of the popular twitch casters left the platform which was a nail in the coffin. i cant stop thinking about that the timing was peculiar. its been dead ever since. people just lost interest and some moved onto aoe 4 which is basically a mobile game tbh.

This couldn't be further from the truth (not starting an argument fyi). AOE4 has done quite a bad job at taking AOE2's player base. If anything I think AOE4 will seriously need a lot more added to it in order to seriously compete with AOE2 both in gameplay and in fans switching over.

Edit: I'm pretty sure currently AOE2 has the highest interest and level of players since Age of Kings came out no joke.

Not to mention that AoE2 lost almost no streamers to AoE4. Instead, it was AoE3 and Starcraft 2 that lost streamers to AoE4.

[Lone]

I dl'ed the demo for AOE4. Nooooooo thanks. Didn't like the graphic style nearly as much, seemed darker and grainier though I have an old GPU. Building a monument to gain a bonus and advance in age is a neat idea but was pretty boring; the choices weren't difficult.

Either keep dumping more resources and effort into making AOE2 as big and badass as they can, or AOE 5 needs to take cues from AOE2 still being as popular as it is compared to its cousins and go in big with fresh takes on the civs, stuffed to the gills with interesting techs, maybe expand the time period covered, and make the game look, sound, and control as best as possible.

[kucsidaveee]

Originally posted by Lone:

I dl'ed the demo for AOE4. Nooooooo thanks. Didn't like the graphic style nearly as much, seemed darker and grainier though I have an old GPU. Building a monument to gain a bonus and advance in age is a neat idea but was pretty boring; the choices weren't difficult.

Either keep dumping more resources and effort into making AOE2 as big and badass as they can, or AOE 5 needs to take cues from AOE2 still being as popular as it is compared to its cousins and go in big with fresh takes on the civs, stuffed to the gills with interesting techs, maybe expand the time period covered, and make the game look, sound, and control as best as possible.

The problem is that they are still looking at starcraft and what that did to blizzard and try to replicate it instead of making a good game.
If you look at AoE4, it plays more like starcraft than AoE in the sense that units have active abilities.

I get that it is cool to pull off a last minit spearwall or whatever just before the cav hits, but that doesn't compensate for the lack of responsiveness of the units.
They really should just get back into AoE2 and stabilize the game, and make 3-4 more DLCs after, with maybe a few free content packs.

[GothNuts]

IKR i cant even have a game against the ai atm, i finally got the courage to start playing online (got 15 or so games in) and then now its starting to crash. all i wanna do is jam, but cant even get through 1 game without it crashing, i hope this is sorted soon

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Cutler Beckett:

this game was very much trying to rekindle with its ashes and there was a real hope. but then aoe 4 came and some of the popular twitch casters left the platform which was a nail in the coffin. i cant stop thinking about that the timing was peculiar. its been dead ever since. people just lost interest and some moved onto aoe 4 which is basically a mobile game tbh.

It was only Viper and T90 leaving for FB. T90 tried AoE 4, liked it but switched back to 2 as 4 was lacking very much at the beginning and Viper tried to play both but set his focus back to AoE 2.
The only caster that comes to mind that somehow fully switched to Age 4 is Lida although he also co casted some Age 2 again

[Marshal]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Cutler Beckett:

this game was very much trying to rekindle with its ashes and there was a real hope. but then aoe 4 came and some of the popular twitch casters left the platform which was a nail in the coffin. i cant stop thinking about that the timing was peculiar. its been dead ever since. people just lost interest and some moved onto aoe 4 which is basically a mobile game tbh.

Lol, nope.

AoE2 has more than double teh playerbase of AoE4, and will likely triple it soon.
AoE4 is a basic, boring game, unless you nolife teh MP, which almost no one does.

I see it more as AoE 2 is for folks with nostalgia and bad hardware. The symmetrical gameplay of AoE 2 gets boring unlike AoE 4's unique feeling civs and architecture/design.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Marshal:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Lol, nope.

AoE2 has more than double teh playerbase of AoE4, and will likely triple it soon.
AoE4 is a basic, boring game, unless you nolife teh MP, which almost no one does.

I see it more as AoE 2 is for folks with nostalgia and bad hardware. The symmetrical gameplay of AoE 2 gets boring unlike AoE 4's unique feeling civs and architecture/design.

Actually, AoE 4 is the one made for nostalgia as it uses the setting of the most popular entry in the franchise (excluding AoE 1 as that one's more Vietnam-based).

The symmetric gameplay of AoE 2 makes it more feel like chess as you learn strategies instead of civs. There is some asymetry inbetween, especially with the new civs that came in via DE's DLCs

[Marshal]

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Originally posted by Marshal:

I see it more as AoE 2 is for folks with nostalgia and bad hardware. The symmetrical gameplay of AoE 2 gets boring unlike AoE 4's unique feeling civs and architecture/design.

Actually, AoE 4 is the one made for nostalgia as it uses the setting of the most popular entry in the franchise (excluding AoE 1 as that one's more Vietnam-based).

The symmetric gameplay of AoE 2 makes it more feel like chess as you learn strategies instead of civs. There is some asymetry inbetween, especially with the new civs that came in via DE's DLCs

I understand that, but I prefer asymmetric civs. It makes more sense historically.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Marshal:

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Actually, AoE 4 is the one made for nostalgia as it uses the setting of the most popular entry in the franchise (excluding AoE 1 as that one's more Vietnam-based).

The symmetric gameplay of AoE 2 makes it more feel like chess as you learn strategies instead of civs. There is some asymetry inbetween, especially with the new civs that came in via DE's DLCs

I understand that, but I prefer asymmetric civs. It makes more sense historically.

But... despite the general asymetric design, 2's civs are actually already asymetric once you understand the civ bonusses. Each civ, despite the design being symetric, has a different game plan. With Lithuanians, you want to hunt the relics in Castle Age, with Huns, you could try to go FC into mass Cav Archers, with Mongols you can launch a super early scout rush, with Franks it's usually Scouts into Knights etc etc

[Bob of Mage]

Originally posted by Marshal:

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Actually, AoE 4 is the one made for nostalgia as it uses the setting of the most popular entry in the franchise (excluding AoE 1 as that one's more Vietnam-based).

The symmetric gameplay of AoE 2 makes it more feel like chess as you learn strategies instead of civs. There is some asymetry inbetween, especially with the new civs that came in via DE's DLCs

I understand that, but I prefer asymmetric civs. It makes more sense historically.

To be honest the differences between civs would be less to do with one having a slightly better swordsmen than their rivals, and more to do with the resources they have access to, and what tactics they favour. These type of things, if I can use some roleplaying terms, are more player-based, than character-based.

The battlefields are also often stacked to only be symmetric to make things "balanced" and "fair". In many of the custom missions the civs can easily be made asymmetric. Stuff like different players having different age limits.

Most of the games with good asymmetric factions tend to be sci-fi or fantasy ones, with literally differing races, or a very small number of factions. For example Starcraft and C&C having only three factions.