PLEASE ADD OFFLINE LAN

[Zensuu]

Please add back offline LAN, why did you remove it?

[mmmcheesywaffles]

Marketing won the day.

They want Online so they can take your data and sell you stuff. Offline your no good to them :D

[Zensuu]

Originally posted by mmmcheesywaffles:

Marketing won the day.

They want Online so they can take your data and sell you stuff. Offline your no good to them :D

Tears

[DMg Halt]

It never existed. Unless you mean why does AoE2 HD have Offline LAN and AoE2 DE doesn't... it's because they use two completely different methods to network their multiplayer. The one DE has is far superior (Dedicated servers) to HD (Peer to Peer). It truly does have its advantages especially since this is an RTS game, having all players in the game in sync is essential for competitive gameplay. It also allows you to play games with players on the opposite side of the world with little to no lag. In HD, you'll always see games specifying in their game titles only EU or AUS/NZ players allowed. That is no longer a thing in DE. Voting screens to Continue game or save and exit are no longer a thing either.

[𝔫𝔢𝔬𝔫]

+1 bring back LAN

[Zensuu]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

It never existed. Unless you mean why does AoE2 HD have Offline LAN and AoE2 DE doesn't... it's because they use two completely different methods to network their multiplayer. The one DE has is far superior (Dedicated servers) to HD (Peer to Peer). It truly does have its advantages especially since this is an RTS game, having all players in the game in sync is essential for competitive gameplay. It also allows you to play games with players on the opposite side of the world with little to no lag. In HD, you'll always see games specifying in their game titles only EU or AUS/NZ players allowed. That is no longer a thing in DE.

The store page lists it as a LAN game, so either they need to add LAN or fix their false advertisement. The first trailer even gushes over the LAN party legacy of it's predecessors, rubbing in your face what you cannot do in Definitive Edition. The game allows you to host "LAN" servers but only while connected to the internet.

I agree with what you are saying but it doesn't justify this anti consumer practice, if no true LAN exists than they should give players access to their own dedicated servers for offline use.

[DMg Halt]

Dont know if this will work, but you could give it a shot.

https://support.ageofempires.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048249391-I-m-having-trouble-connecting-to-a-LAN-match-with-my-friends-

I'm having trouble connecting to a LAN match with my friends.

23 days ago Updated

If you are having trouble connecting to LAN games, go to your firewall settings and allow incoming communication on TCP Port 8888 and UDP Port 9999, as well as Port 3478 (UDP & TCP) and Port 5222 (UDP & TCP).

[Zensuu]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

Dont know if this will work, but you could give it a shot.

https://support.ageofempires.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048249391-I-m-having-trouble-connecting-to-a-LAN-match-with-my-friends-

Thanks for the input, but sadly it does not help.

The issue is the game straight up does not allow you to even enter the multiplayer menu when offline, so offline LAN is currently impossible unless they change that.

[Zensuu]

They literally made the LAN online only.

[DMg Halt]

Are you on an internet connection right now to use the steam forums? Or if you're using a mobile, does it have tethering for setting up a wi-fi hotspot?

[Zensuu]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

Are you on an internet connection right now to use the steam forums? Or if you're using a mobile, does it have tethering for setting up a wi-fi hotspot?

I am not home at this time, hence how I am talking to you. The issue is I have no internet at home. Cell service is not good enough in the mountains to play online gaming. Online play is not an option for me at home.

I just want to play offline LAN just like I can with the original game.
I purchased this game specifically to play offline LAN.

I find it extremely insulting that this crucial feature was removed, arguably the most important feature in the game.

There really is no excuse for it, I feel ripped off and lied to.

[DMg Halt]

You can get a full refund if you haven't played for more than 2 hours. Surely you were able to figure out that you can't play offline LAN before exceeding that threshold?

[Zensuu]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

You can get a full refund if you haven't played for more than 2 hours. Surely you were able to figure out that you can't play offline LAN before exceeding that threshold?

Nope, I bought it while I was in town and played it for several hours, just to go home and find out that LAN requires an internet connection.

I don't want a refund anyways, I want this amazing game to have the feature it deserves.
Me giving up and getting a refund does not solve the issue for future buyers who are interested in LAN play.

This is VERY basic functionality that they had no right to remove.
Multiplayer preservation is something that I am very passionate about.

Making a multiplayer game dependent on online servers is a great way to kill multiplayer functionality once the official servers shut down. Many many games have seen this fate and it's nothing but sad. Often these games die forever. I don't care how long it takes for servers to shut down, they will shut it down eventually when the game is no longer profitable to them.

Obviously their priority is profit over preservation.

I repeat, either they need to add true offline LAN or they need to state clearly on their store page that their "LAN" requires an internet connection.

[DMg Halt]

The community wouldn't let that happen, server shut downs. If it came to it, we would crowd source the funds and host servers ourselves so people could still play.

I agree, advertising LAN, but not including the multiplayer requirement is misleading. They will probably just remove it, if they were to do anything about it at all. I doubt they'd implement offline LAN.

[Zensuu]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

The community wouldn't let that happen, server shut downs. If it came to it, we would crowd source the funds and host servers ourselves so people could still play.

Hopefully.

You are correct that games with dedicated communities are far more likely to see successful fan preservation, but it is far from a guaranteed. I agree with you that this one will likely see something like that, especially since the community has a fair amount of people who feel like me and want offline LAN. However, the truth is we have no idea what the community will look like in this hypothetical situation we speak of, nor do we know the limits or protections of the game that might prevent such projects.

No matter how you look at it, it is the developers responsibility to include basic offline LAN or user dedicated server capability in order to guarantee preservation. The series has always been offline LAN, and it would not be anywhere as famous and popular as it was if it wasn't for that LAN that spread it like wildfire. They owe everything to that LAN legacy, and they s*** on that legacy with this anti consumer practice of making a classic LAN game online only.

[Tempires]

Originally posted by Zensuu:

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

Are you on an internet connection right now to use the steam forums? Or if you're using a mobile, does it have tethering for setting up a wi-fi hotspot?

I am not home at this time, hence how I am talking to you. The issue is I have no internet at home. Cell service is not good enough in the mountains to play online gaming. Online play is not an option for me at home.

I just want to play offline LAN just like I can with the original game.
I purchased this game specifically to play offline LAN.

I find it extremely insulting that this crucial feature was removed, arguably the most important feature in the game.

There really is no excuse for it, I feel ripped off and lied to.

LAN itself is still there it's just moved behind multiplayer(makes sense) tab which requires internet...

if you are able to set up game and launch game using LAN server option then actual game will played in LAN.