Should be free for HD (2013) owners.

[Mittsies]

To be completely honest, $15 isn't much, and I will probably buy this game anyways. The problem is that the player base is going to be much smaller as a result of people not wanting to buy the same game over and over again.

It's hard enough to get a multiplayer community for an RTS, especially one that came out 20 years ago, without Micro$oft trying to milk the AoE fans as hard as possible.

Definitive Edition should be free for everyone who bought HD Edition, or at least offer a much bigger discount. And for the love of God: please no DLC this time.

[King Pepega]

DITTO!!!

[-Dare Devil/x/]

-How much was it back in the 90's? $20? Then 14 years later another $20. Then 6 years later another $20.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-How much was it back in the 90's? $20? Then 14 years later another $20. Then 6 years later another $20.

In the 90s it was a full price game, meaning usually around 50$.

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by holydiver95:

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-How much was it back in the 90's? $20? Then 14 years later another $20. Then 6 years later another $20.

In the 90s it was a full price game, meaning usually around 50$.

conquerors included we can add yet another bit of it to the price back then

how does that factor in though in the calculation that we already paid for aoe2hd and now are expected to pay again if we wish to have a working game?

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

Originally posted by holydiver95:

In the 90s it was a full price game, meaning usually around 50$.

conquerors included we can add yet another bit of it to the price back then

how does that factor in though in the calculation that we already paid for aoe2hd and now are expected to pay again if we wish to have a working game?

I just made a simple answer to the question of AoE 2s price when the CD Version came out. Nothing more, nothing less.

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by holydiver95:

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

conquerors included we can add yet another bit of it to the price back then

how does that factor in though in the calculation that we already paid for aoe2hd and now are expected to pay again if we wish to have a working game?

I just made a simple answer to the question of AoE 2s price when the CD Version came out. Nothing more, nothing less.

true, and for once i wasnt criticizing you but wondering why dare devil brought it up, should have made that more clear though thats on me

[-Dare Devil/x/]

Originally posted by holydiver95:

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-How much was it back in the 90's? $20? Then 14 years later another $20. Then 6 years later another $20.

In the 90s it was a full price game, meaning usually around 50$.

-Ah, I couldn't remember that far ago. Thanks for correcting me. We can assume $50 then! My point being, I don't quite see this as "trying to milk the AoE fans as hard as possible."

[Mittsies]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

My point being, I don't quite see this as "trying to milk the AoE fans as hard as possible."

Except HD edition was $20 and then another $30 for the DLC, bring it up to $50.
What is your definition of milking a fanbase if this isn't it?

[-Dare Devil/x/]

Originally posted by Mittsies:

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

My point being, I don't quite see this as "trying to milk the AoE fans as hard as possible."

Except HD edition was $20 and then another $30 for the DLC, bring it up to $50.
What is your definition of milking a fanbase if this isn't it?

-For me probably buying the same thing over and over less than two years apart. So when I see the below, it really doesn't feel as intense as it is made out to seem.

1. 1999: AoK + AoC = $50? Original content.
2. 2013: HD Edition. Rerelease. $20?
2. DLCs: Original content. $30?
3. 2019: DE Edition. Rerelease. $20?
3. DLC: Original content. Free.

-Do you consider net new original content as milking the playerbase because that's what is looks like a little bit.

[Mittsies]

You're missing the point.

It's not about money, it's about the smaller playerbase, and making DE free would give it a much bigger multiplayer playerbase. Age of Empires 2 is a notoriously difficult game to get into, and by splitting the community even further by making them buy yet another remake, it'll be even harder to get the multiplayer community off of the ground.

Micro$oft already got enough money from the AoE fans IMO. They should do something good for the community and release DE for free, rather than selling yet another half-baked remake to people who play the game like a singleplayer city builder with a slice of nostalgia. And btw don't forget about all of the other games in the Age series, these problems aren't just with AoE2.

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

Originally posted by Mittsies:

Except HD edition was $20 and then another $30 for the DLC, bring it up to $50.
What is your definition of milking a fanbase if this isn't it?

-For me probably buying the same thing over and over less than two years apart. So when I see the below, it really doesn't feel as intense as it is made out to seem.

1. 1999: AoK + AoC = $50? Original content.
2. 2013: HD Edition. Rerelease. $20?
2. DLCs: Original content. $30?
3. 2019: DE Edition. Rerelease. $20?
3. DLC: Original content. Free.

-Do you consider net new original content as milking the playerbase because that's what is looks like a little bit.

thats still 15€ after the discount one has to pay to get bugfixes; regardless oh also getting the dlcs we already had

[Dayve]

Why should you be entitled to someone elses hard work for free?

Why don't you come and clean out my gutters and tidy my yard for free?

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by Dayve:

Why should you be entitled to someone elses hard work for free?

Why don't you come and clean out my gutters and tidy my yard for free?

why shouldnt we be entitled to a working product we paid for?

or did you somehow not pay for aoe2hd (assuming you own it) because i sure did pay for it, no piracy from my side >_>

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by Chashmodai:

Originally posted by Firehawk:

Skyrim Special Edition was given for free to everyone who owned the Legendary Edition before SE's release too. So yes, this version could be released for free too if they wanted long term benefits. You're just being an idiot.

Oh you mean the game that has been re-released about a 100 times? Great example. By the way, the VR version is another 60 bucks even if you own Legendary or Special edition. And let's not forget that SE re-introduced paid mods, an alternative source of income from both new and old players, meaning that Bethesda could release SE without the whole venture being totally unprofitable.

But hey, let's hope Microsoft adds microtransactions so that the game can be free!

special edition was the first rerelease of skyrim afaik but k

also MS could have released DE as a dlc for aoe2hd too, making it "not totally unprofitable"

soo.... your point?

Originally posted by Chashmodai:

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

god forbid people getting a working product they paid for

Strange how 8,502 players are playing a game right now that does not work.. Very strange indeed.

You got exactly what you paid for. You're just here, whining day in and day out, because you're not getting what you want for free. The very definition of entitled.

no, because updates kept breaking MORE of the game; and yes we ARE entitled to them fixing what they broke....

[Chashmodai]

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

special edition was the first rerelease of skyrim afaik but k

Legendary Edition was the first. Then Special Edition. Then VR Edition. If you wanted both Skyrim SE and VR at launch, you'd have to pay $120.

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

also MS could have released DE as a dlc for aoe2hd too, making it "not totally unprofitable"

And how exactly are they supposed to release a 64-bit DLC to a 32-bit game? And even if they managed to do that, what difference would it make? It would likely be priced the same - 15 bucks, which is pretty cheap when it comes to DLCs. Skyrim's Dawnguard DLC launch price was 20 bucks. And how exactly would multiplayer work between players with DE and players without? Hint: it wouldn't work at all.

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

no, because updates kept breaking MORE of the game; and yes we ARE entitled to them fixing what they broke....

Oh, I see, the game is only slightly not working. That makes a lot more sense.. And I suppose we would see a trend in SteamDB, since players would probably stop playing if a patch broke their game.. What do you think? Another hint: We don't see such a trend. Player count keeps rising, despite all the patches that keep "breaking more of the game".