Lithuanians need more nerf

[Avyra]

i hope game staff remove smith and stable for this civ

[yuzhonglu]

LOL. And here I was a few months ago on this forum arguing with people telling me Lithuanians are meh and not one of the top 5 or 10 civs.

[TheDiaper]

Even have to circle jerk with an unranked 11111
https://aoe2.net/#profile-76561198997752841

[gia]

wasnt this a buff overall? weaker knights but still more dmg than full if they get the relics, stronger trash and their trash didnt suck before, hmm I suppose their halb trash is weaker, but the hussar is a good alternative if they lose all their relics and gold

[Avyra]

Originally posted by Tinea Pedis:

Even have to circle jerk with an unranked 11111
https://aoe2.net/#profile-76561198997752841

in every community you can find the exalted child now you can knock your feet on the ground even harder

I play to achieve goals playing ranked games does not give them so there is no reason for me to play them.

would it have been enough to use a shred of your brain if you have one? to understand the sarcasm of my post the Lithuanians has received 3 nerfs on paladins and relic bonus since the release the bonus is variable because it is not said that you in a game have 2 relics to compensate for the lack of blacksmith bonus and others 1- 2 to have the plus (for the guy who wrote later) hussar does not take the relic bonus therefore it is a -2 -1 if we consider the new unit "cavalry-based civilization that ends up using infantry because it is worthwhile if not we have 3 relics

[jonoliveira12]

Why do Lithuanians even have Paladin now?
The Leitis fully replaced it, and you need 2 Relics to even make them comparable to FU, because you will never get 4 Relics in a real game.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by gia:

wasnt this a buff overall? weaker knights but still more dmg than full if they get the relics, stronger trash and their trash didnt suck before, hmm I suppose their halb trash is weaker, but the hussar is a good alternative if they lose all their relics and gold

They need 3 Relics to get +1 Damage now, compared to before, so no, it was a massive nerf.
Specially to the Halberdiers, which not only lack +1 MA from Platemail, but now do not even have Blast Furnace.

[Avyra]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Why do Lithuanians even have Paladin now?
The Leitis fully replaced it, and you need 2 Relics to even make them comparable to FU, because you will never get 4 Relics in a real game.

yes you need 2 relics but you arent sure to get it :) so smith bonus is better but im still waiting for next nerf

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Avyra:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Why do Lithuanians even have Paladin now?
The Leitis fully replaced it, and you need 2 Relics to even make them comparable to FU, because you will never get 4 Relics in a real game.

yes you need 2 relics but you arent sure to get it :) so smith bonus is better but im still waiting for next nerf

Thig is, they massively buffed the Leitis, so any Liths player traiing even one Knight, is a chronic fool.
They should just remove Paladin from the Lithuanians.

[yuzhonglu]

The only issue is: how will you get the Castles to get the Leitis?

EDIT: I guess what you'll have to do is in Castle Age use knights then switch to Leitis by Imperial. In Castle Age their knight line is just as good as anyone else's (possibly better due to 1 or 2 relics).

[Avyra]

actually you have no reason for play lituans except if your opponent use units with hight armor value, because u have trash infantry archer and chavalry compared to other civs

[Mr.America]

I don't like this nerf. Pre-dukes lithuanians were a strong, but balanced civ. Deny their relics and they're easily countered by spears in castle, and spears + skirms in imp. Or, if you have them, decent archers and camels make lithuanians run. And other cav civs were more or less even with them.

But this update has screwed them over, they're now relegated to FC knight rush only. Get 1/2 relics and spam knights before the enemy reaches castle. The winged hussars are anti-archer cav, but well, they're cav, spam a few pikes at them, they die. Basically, if the enemy gets to imp mostly unbothered, the lithuanian player loses.

[Avyra]

Originally posted by Mr.America:

I don't like this nerf. Pre-dukes lithuanians were a strong, but balanced civ. Deny their relics and they're easily countered by spears in castle, and spears + skirms in imp. Or, if you have them, decent archers and camels make lithuanians run. And other cav civs were more or less even with them.

But this update has screwed them over, they're now relegated to FC knight rush only. Get 1/2 relics and spam knights before the enemy reaches castle. The winged hussars are anti-archer cav, but well, they're cav, spam a few pikes at them, they die. Basically, if the enemy gets to imp mostly unbothered, the lithuanian player loses.

this is one of the few posts that summarize. the reason for my sarcasm.
at the next nerf the Lithuanian knights, will be equipped with Wurstelblade. which will reduce their attack to 1

[Elriadon]

Give them those Pagan shrines from their campaign that automatically spawn units, I'm sure they'll be balanced then :D

[baron]

people in here not understanding this is sarcasm lol