Horrible rating system

[DUKAPb]

Played 10 games in ranked. Matchmaking always found to me people which have played more than 100+ games. But they have rating less than mine. Why starting rating is not minimal ? How to play if your enemies a lot stronger than you but they have less rating?

Its a huge disadvantage of the game. In AoE 3 all was fine with ranks.

[TheDiaper]

If "rating" starts from zero, the worst players will get crushed again and again and again and again by the new comers. With the current system, they only suffer the first tens of games before getting somewhat 5050 games.

[TheDiaper]

How to play if your enemies a lot stronger than you but they have less rating?

Just lose

[Adventurer]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

Played 10 games in ranked. Matchmaking always found to me people which have played more than 100+ games. But they have rating less than mine. Why starting rating is not minimal ? How to play if your enemies a lot stronger than you but they have less rating?

Its a huge disadvantage of the game. In AoE 3 all was fine with ranks.

You're in the placement matches. They put you against different enemies to figure out your ranking. Wait for a couple more matches.

[DUKAPb]

Originally posted by HongeyKong (Fever):

Just lose

How much I must to lose?!
I have played 18 games. Zero chance against same style people. Horrible matchmaking ever.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2218532680

[𝔜𝔲𝔢]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

How much I must to lose?!
I have played 18 games. Zero chance against same style people. Horrible matchmaking ever.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2218532680

Yeah, well ... that just means you're still not good enough for that Elo-Level.
Remember, you start with ~ 1000 Elo, so it might take quite a while for you to lose enough Elo to get down to your current skill level.

If you want to improve your online experience:
- do the "Art of War"-missions
- look up build orders for a better early game
- may want to give some of the AoE2-Youtube-Channels a try (T90Official, Spirit of the Law, TheViper, etc.)
- make sure to create enough villagers (100+ at least). For most of the games in the ~ 800 Elo-range, having a better economy than your opponents is all you need to win.

[-Dare Devil/x/]

-You just are pretty far below average and jumping into multiplayer ranked.

-Looking at your match history here: https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-matches-76561197991386429

-It looks like you may have won some placement matches and you started at an ELO that was higher than you should have been at.

-You are winning SOME games still; so you are probably around 800 ELO experience level to be honest. And at those levels you will find yourself facing wildly inconsistent opponents as well as yourself probably having extreme "good" days and it feels like everyone is a noob.

-Looking at the matchmaking ELOs of your opponents; it actually seems like it is doing a good job and matching you downward.

[DUKAPb]

Originally posted by Kiryan:

If you want to improve your online experience:
- do the "Art of War"-missions
- look up build orders for a better early game
- may want to give some of the AoE2-Youtube-Channels a try (T90Official, Spirit of the Law, TheViper, etc.)
- make sure to create enough villagers (100+ at least). For most of the games in the ~ 800 Elo-range, having a better economy than your opponents is all you need to win.

Of course I do not need serious games. I just wanted play for fun on low ranks against SAME skill players. I will not waste my time in vain to de-rank raiting.

This game was deleted. I hope that AoE3 DE will have different rating system. Or it again waste of money.

[petercordia]

Pity, I think Dare Devil was right

[𝔜𝔲𝔢]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

I just wanted play for fun on low ranks against SAME skill players.

... and how exactly do you expect the game to KNOW just how good or bad you are to match you with similare players? That's what the Elo-rating system is for ...

[DUKAPb]

Originally posted by Kiryan:

... and how exactly do you expect the game to KNOW just how good or bad you are to match you with similare players? That's what the Elo-rating system is for ...

Starting rating must be zero.

In AoE3, you have started from lowest rank - "private". Next corporal and etc. It was right.

[-Dare Devil/x/]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

Originally posted by Kiryan:

... and how exactly do you expect the game to KNOW just how good or bad you are to match you with similare players? That's what the Elo-rating system is for ...

Starting rating must be zero.

In AoE3, you have started from lowest rank - "private". Next corporal and etc. It was right.

-You face the same problem no matter how you cut it.

-If you start at 0, any person deciding to play ranked will end up crushing you so they rank up if their real skill is higher. This will actually happen more often as every person joining ranked will start low and end up crushing you to move up.

-With AoE 2 DE, your skill level seems to be around 800 ELO. This means anyone hopping onto ranked will most likely not play you.

-Essentially its picking between forever having the possibility of matching against someone starting ranked who is very good

Vs

-Having a one time loss streak to "derank" to your skill level and if you never improve then you'll remain under where new players start at.

[TheDiaper]

I feel really sorry for you OP, you dont know the existence of "talent" and believe "experience" = "skill".

[_WALT_]

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

In AoE3, you have started from lowest rank - "private". Next corporal and etc. It was right.

so if you start a private and remain private your whole life, will you be okay?

[Titan]

The ranking system is just fine as it is. Deal with it or find another game.