Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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GrizzGolf Jul 10, 2020 @ 9:04am
Champion Spammer
What’s the best defense vs an aggressive champion spammer?
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Novi Jul 10, 2020 @ 9:20am 
Arbalest/Hand cannoneers.
TheDiaper Jul 10, 2020 @ 9:40am 
Champion spam = late game
How could that even be aggressive? 11

Champion / Cataphract / Boyar / Hand Cannoneer / Arbalest / Plumed Archer / Longbowman / Kamayuk / Slinger / Samurai / Woad Raider / Teutonic Knight / Throwing Axeman / etc etc etc
grraf Jul 10, 2020 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by GrizzGolf:
What’s the best defense vs an aggressive champion spammer?
Being an aggressive archer spammer is an option there...
Salnax Jul 10, 2020 @ 12:32pm 
1. Arbalesters, especially from behind a barrier and with some micromanagement. Have them pick off enemy units one by one. (19/35 civs have them)

2. Hand Cannoneers have a great attack bonus against Infantry, and their bad accuracy is fine against larger groups anyway. (18/35 civs have them)

3. Heavy Scorpions, since they can do damage against multiple units per attack. Just give them a barrier or some basic units to hide behind. (22/35 civs have them)

4. There are some Unique Units that fare well against Champions, typically melee units with anti-infantry bonuses or great melee armor. (Boyars, Jaguar Warriors, Teutonic Knights, etc)

5. Heavy Cavalry Archers, since they can attack and pull back faster than infantry can catch them. (27/35 civs have them)

6. Use your own Champion spam, but do it better! (Possible for the Aztecs, Burmese, Goths, Japanese, Slavs, Teutons, and Vikings, but only against civs without exceptional Champions)

Any given civ should have at least two of these available, if not more.

DO NOT use trash units (Skirmishers, Spearmen, Light Cavalry)! They simply melt under pressure from Champions, and Champions don't require enough Gold to make waiting them out viable.
Bunny Jul 10, 2020 @ 12:42pm 
Arbalest ♥♥♥♥ on champions. So do hand cannons. So do scorpions with meatshield.
Nifrigel Jul 10, 2020 @ 12:53pm 
Just mass canon pushers
Andy the X Jul 10, 2020 @ 3:00pm 
I have lost some games (in which I tought I was ahead) to unsighted late-game-champions out of nowhere.

If your opponent switches his approach and masses champions somewhere in a sneaky base without you noticing it, they can absolutely overrun your whole ecconomy. It happened to me more than I'd like to admit. It is a good comeback strategy.

So the best counter is actually scouting.

Once you know they are coming, it is easy to welcome them with some hand canoneers (or any of the other units already mentioned).
Last edited by Andy the X; Jul 10, 2020 @ 3:02pm
GrizzGolf Jul 12, 2020 @ 4:29am 
Thanks guys and girls Never had that happen to me. Dude switched late game to spamming them. I wasnt ready for it. They just ate my army alive.
Pev Jul 12, 2020 @ 4:41pm 
combine arbalest with heavy scorpion
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