Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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Raoul9753 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:11
Why do people who are clearly not Noobs enter "Noob only" games?
Seriously, i have just started playing this game yesterday, i played maybe 10 games in total at this point, and all of them had someone who was clearly not a noob just dominating the game. There were 4v4 noob only games where one guy just rushed through the ages and proceeded to 1v4 the enemy team...

Honestly, at this point I dont even want to start another game...

Seriously, why are people so Pathetic? Cant they cut it with exerpienced players? What kind of satisfaction can you get from crushing some noobs who still try to get the ressources for castle age while your knight army is already marching because you have build orders etc in your muscle memory at this point?
Última edición por Raoul9753; 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:12
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aflashman 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:17 
Because AoE 2 is such a well established game, experienced players have a weird idea of what a noob is. I have been playing this game on and off for 20 years and I am considered a noob (I can beat my friends and I have in the past beaten the AI on all levels but I am not at all competitive against randoms online).

Noob in AoE2 speak means someone who knows how to play, including being able to execute most of the well-known strategies, but not to a competitive standard.

It's dumb I know. They really should come up with another term for what they call noobs, and just leave the term noob to people who really are actual noobs: as in people who have just started playing;
Última edición por aflashman; 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:26
Caß 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:19 
Maybe because 'noob' isn't very specific. Perhaps making lobbies asking for elo numbers could be better. Honestly, I have no idea up to what point you would consider someone a noob...

But of course, could just be that some like to crush people that are clrearly worse. :derp:
Nemo_Fulani 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:28 
1. You can check somehow the elo of players on this site https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-leaderboard-unranked Just search the name of the player you're going to play with.

2. It's like

Publicado originalmente por afLaSHman:
Because AoE 2 is such a well established game, experienced players have a weird idea of what a noob is. I have been playing this game on and off for 20 years and I am considered a noob (I can beat my friends and I have in the past beaten the AI on all levels but I am not at all competitive against randoms online).

Noob in AoE2 speak means someone who knows how to play, including being able to execute most of the well-known strategies, but not to a competitive standard.

It's dumb I know. They really should come up with another term for what they call noobs, and just leave the term noob to people who really are actual noobs: as in people have just started playing;


wrote! It's not nice but it is like it is.

3. I would advice some better names like Absolute beginners? Beginners, First Online Games, Unexperienced Players
Última edición por Nemo_Fulani; 22 DIC 2019 a las 3:29
Hugepieman 23 DIC 2019 a las 9:43 
Publicado originalmente por Nemo_Fulani:
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3. I would advice some better names like Absolute beginners? Beginners, First Online Games, Unexperienced Players

I'm unexperienced at THIS version of AOE2 so I can join those games still right?

A matchmaking based on score would be great or the option to kick a player who is trolling noobs would be good.
ClEm 23 DIC 2019 a las 10:06 
Watch the replay and learn from him
JoshSA 23 DIC 2019 a las 11:23 
This got me in the beginning on Voobly as well. I joined the new player lobby and it was crazy competitive. But DE has ranked lobbies and you will get paired with people who have a similar skill to you. Just beware that it will take losing about 5 to 10 games before you're in the right ELO for your skill (depending on how "noob" you are).
VSZ 1 DIC 2022 a las 12:51 
From my recent experience it's not only about "that's not your definition of noob".
I'm quite recent to random online games, and I fully know that most who still play this very old game have lots of experience. I know that despite me being able to easily defeat friends (who think they are good because they played a lot vs AI) 1vs3 or 1vs4 on LAN parties because I know build orders, strategies, having spectated pro player's matches, I'm no match for the average who has been playing online ranked non-stop for many years.

But, my recent experience shows that there is a noob-luring tactic which is quite established among seasoned players.

I enter a 4vs4, "for NOOBS" black forest game. (Almost every game advertised as noob-friendly is a 4vs4 black forest these days)

Basically every time the same happens: One of my teammates plays at about a similar level as me. Maybe a bit better, but not by much. The two other teammates are complete noobs, playing sim city, not even having heard about luring boars, or build orders, or villager high, and they often have a single TC and a single mill when the inevitable happens at about minute 35-40, when the gates open and the strongest enemy comes in with their 5+ TCs, and 20+ barracks and 5+ castles spewing the infinite army, closely followed by the almost equally well advanced teammates.

And the enemy team is very coordinated, and is full of seasoned players. They often even tribute each other, to pump up their leader. It cannot be random chance, that so many games have such a team distribution, with even the weakest on the enemy team being so much better than the best on our team, and our team always having at least 1 or 2 complete beginners. It seems as if they know each other and set up the game like this.
Rhalius 1 DIC 2022 a las 13:21 
It's why I don't even bother with online play. Bots suffice well enough and when playing against strangers online it may as well be bots. Little difference there.
oldlamehand 1 DIC 2022 a las 13:27 
Publicado originalmente por aflashman:
Because AoE 2 is such a well established game, experienced players have a weird idea of what a noob is. I have been playing this game on and off for 20 years and I am considered a noob (I can beat my friends and I have in the past beaten the AI on all levels but I am not at all competitive against randoms online).

Noob in AoE2 speak means someone who knows how to play, including being able to execute most of the well-known strategies, but not to a competitive standard.

It's dumb I know. They really should come up with another term for what they call noobs, and just leave the term noob to people who really are actual noobs: as in people who have just started playing;
I know what you're talking about. I first played AOE2 sometime in the early 2000s and still suck at multiplayer online.
I get my butt kicked in rated games.

But it's not like I've been playing AOE2 for 20 years continuously. There's always been a period where I played and then a few years of pause.
Quintem 1 DIC 2022 a las 13:48 
Publicado originalmente por Praevasc:
Necromancy

Why would you comment in a thread that is almost 3 years old... :steamfacepalm:
Rabidnid 1 DIC 2022 a las 13:56 
Publicado originalmente por oldlamehand:
Publicado originalmente por aflashman:
Because AoE 2 is such a well established game, experienced players have a weird idea of what a noob is. I have been playing this game on and off for 20 years and I am considered a noob (I can beat my friends and I have in the past beaten the AI on all levels but I am not at all competitive against randoms online).

Noob in AoE2 speak means someone who knows how to play, including being able to execute most of the well-known strategies, but not to a competitive standard.

It's dumb I know. They really should come up with another term for what they call noobs, and just leave the term noob to people who really are actual noobs: as in people who have just started playing;
I know what you're talking about. I first played AOE2 sometime in the early 2000s and still suck at multiplayer online.
I get my butt kicked in rated games.

But it's not like I've been playing AOE2 for 20 years continuously. There's always been a period where I played and then a few years of pause.


This game is bigger than starcraft on twitch. The player base is huge and the number of competitive players also massive. But I am old and crippled so I stick to playing medium bots on random maps.

for those who want to play online they have to stick out the first 10 games or so for the matchmaker to generate their ELO. Everyone starts at 1000 but then the game changes to their actual ELO after 10 games or so.

4v4 games are going to be teams with voice chat for the most part.


In a different game with no ranking at all (Wargame Red Dragon) I started by saying "players with less than 10 MP games" or 20 or whatever I was up to at the time. It helps a lot and I could just ban people who abused it.
Última edición por Rabidnid; 1 DIC 2022 a las 13:57
Dugaul 1 DIC 2022 a las 14:03 
Try Maps like Amazon or Wood Wall thing but ya real Noob only games can be rare.
Flakstruk 1 DIC 2022 a las 22:42 
Maybe specify what kind of game you want, casual, to post-imp, competitive?
VSZ 6 DIC 2022 a las 12:18 
Publicado originalmente por Quintem:
Publicado originalmente por Praevasc:
Necromancy

Why would you comment in a thread that is almost 3 years old... :steamfacepalm:

Because it's still very much relevant, maybe even more relevant now, as lobbies advertised for "NOOBS ONLY NO RUSH" are all over the place, which are actually 4vs4 with one team of seasoned players who are well coordinated and obviously know each other (as they attack perfectly in sync and supporting each other), who wait for 4 random victims to join their lobby, only to rush them, often before 15 minutes are up. And as there was a huge discount recently, there is an influx of new players, who are wondering about the same thing.
Quintem 6 DIC 2022 a las 14:21 
Publicado originalmente por Praevasc:
Publicado originalmente por Quintem:

Why would you comment in a thread that is almost 3 years old... :steamfacepalm:

Because it's still very much relevant, maybe even more relevant now, as lobbies advertised for "NOOBS ONLY NO RUSH" are all over the place, which are actually 4vs4 with one team of seasoned players who are well coordinated and obviously know each other (as they attack perfectly in sync and supporting each other), who wait for 4 random victims to join their lobby, only to rush them, often before 15 minutes are up. And as there was a huge discount recently, there is an influx of new players, who are wondering about the same thing.

Make a new post about the subject, don't resurrect a 3 year old post somebody else made to discuss an issue that is current. I'm not 100% sure on Steam's forum rules nor am I a mod but generally dragging up old posts is bad form. I'm not a weirdo for thinking this either. As some sites will actually automatically lock old posts after a lack of activity.

My advise is always the same, play quick match or ranked. Avoid lobbies without a rating system in place the term "noob" is nebulous and means different things to different people. But then again I'm pretty "old" as far as online gaming is concerned so I know it's best to avoid any lobby listed as noob it's a trap.
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