Treaty Period "broken" (not that much though)

[FlipperTime]

Hi, I was playing a random map with a Treaty Period, but I noticed that because of the treaty, my formal enemies (allies by that time) would have all Team-Bonuses. So my enemies could have my Elite Skirmishers because of the treaty.

I think it is a bug because we are just establishing a period of non-attacks, not being allied whatsoever. I think a good way to fix it is to make these bonuses dependent on the diplomacy.

[HADI THE GREAT]

Thats also a problem ive had, the enemy to be was also trading with me and even when i buld walls with gates he has access through the gates. Not just that the gates sometimes dont even work and remain stuck open!!!

[DMg Halt]

I think that'd be great, if an enemy walks into your yellow line area, treaty is gone for those units and you can fire upon them and they can't fire back.

Another bug, Arena games with a treaty require you to lock your gates for the duration, otherwise enemys can walk right inside and stand their scout within range of your sheep so they can't be converted back.

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by Hadi Yousef:

Thats also a problem ive had, the enemy to be was also trading with me and even when i buld walls with gates he has access through the gates. Not just that the gates sometimes dont even work and remain stuck open!!!

That's a little bit different. You can trade with enemies. You shouldn't be able to get team bonuses from enemies.

[DMg Halt]

I think being able to walk in the yellow territory and still be an ally on a treaty game is dumb. You shouldn't be able to walk 60 paladins into the enemys base if it's still during a treaty. And if you are able to, those units should not be protected by treaty until they are no longer within the border.

[DuckieMcduck]

Originally posted by DMg Halt:

I think being able to walk in the yellow territory and still be an ally on a treaty game is dumb. You shouldn't be able to walk 60 paladins into the enemys base if it's still during a treaty.

If you can't beat 60 paladins at base you wouldn't beat them anyway
Only point of turtling is to give yourself time to make an army, treaty removes that need completely. If you don't have an army by the time the other guy has 60 paladins you're already way behind.

What OP complains about is team bonuses, which will be used against you. So those 60 paladins may be stronger for no good reason because of that.

[DMg Halt]

Whether you're ahead or behind your enemy economically has no bearing on what I was takling about. You shouldn't be forced to respond to an enemy invasion BEFORE the treaty time is up. Whether it's a strong enemy with paladins, or an enemy 2 ages behind you sending in a few militia, the enemy should not be able to freely wander about your base when you still have yellow lines around your town.

And while not the best example, my original point still stands with the 60 paladins. The enemy shouldn't be able to send ANY units into your yellow territory, otherwise they automatically forfeit the treaty protections until they've retreated to the neutral zone.

[DuckieMcduck]

Originally posted by ;2516897767689869641:

You shouldn't be forced to respond to an enemy invasion BEFORE the treaty time is up.

Consider it a take on multiculturalism. If you don't like it, make walls with locked gates between you and your allies and have them pay for it or they won't get trade.

[DMg Halt]

Originally posted by UnluckyDuckie:

Consider it a take on multiculturalism. If you don't like it, make walls with locked gates between you and your allies and have them pay for it or they won't get trade.

That type of solution would work provided that the gates don't get stuck open.

Hypothetically, USA and Canada, two nations at war, agree to a ceasefire until Dec 31 2020.

Does Canada just let the USA run an entire tank battalion through the streets of Toronto, and completely ignore the USA utilizing a squadron of F22 raptors to enforce a No Fly zone above it's capital, all while using its entire fleet of Aircraft carriers and nuclear subs to prepare an invasion through the Hudson bay.

The answer is, of course not. That's not how a cease-fire treaty works. The second the USA steps over the border the agreements to the treaty are over, the cease-fire is gone. Canada opens fire upon US armed forced the moment their military crosses over the border.