Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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mickeyjim2 May 24, 2020 @ 4:00am
Is there an option to choose to play as pocket or flank?
Would it be possible to add an option to allow people to choose to play as pocket or flank (if there isn't already?) It's clear there are players who like to rush and players who like to boom, and it can be quite frustrating when players get positions that don't suit that. For someone like me who likes to boom, getting placed as the flank means I'm far more likely to be attacked which interrupts my booming enough as it is even before I have to put aside resources for units that I don't want yet. And for a player who wants to rush, getting put in a pocket position can place them further away from the action, and adding an extra minute or 2 of walking time to a rush when speed is essential can make a big difference. Rushing players are clearly better at handling early conflicts if they're attacked as well and an uninterrupted pocket player is also in a better position to lend assistance to their allies.
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B14ckJack91 May 24, 2020 @ 4:15am 
Players are placed on the map based on color, so you choose color
mickeyjim2 May 24, 2020 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by JackTheBeast:
Players are placed on the map based on color, so you choose color
How so? Which numbers get placed in which spots? Also doesn't that change if a player chooses a pocket colour but their whole team chose the pocket colours? Then is it back to being random?
Originally posted by mickeyjim2:
Originally posted by JackTheBeast:
Players are placed on the map based on color, so you choose color
How so? Which numbers get placed in which spots? Also doesn't that change if a player chooses a pocket colour but their whole team chose the pocket colours? Then is it back to being random?
I don't know exactly
but in my experience, grey and orange (my favorite colors) are always flank, red is also always flank
I think Teal (Cyan) is mostly pocket
The reason why I'm not so sure is that I've seen blue being pocket mostly, but I also saw it being flank multiple times in 4v4s.
i don't recall the remaining colors' positions
hope you get a sure answer : )
Last edited by XXx_YOLOBambiSlayer420_XXx; May 24, 2020 @ 11:33am
TheDiaper May 24, 2020 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by Thoughts, Words and Actions:
Originally posted by mickeyjim2:
How so? Which numbers get placed in which spots? Also doesn't that change if a player chooses a pocket colour but their whole team chose the pocket colours? Then is it back to being random?
I don't know exactly
but in my experience, grey and orange (my favorite colors) are always flank, red is also always flank
I think Teal (Cyan) is mostly pocket
The reason why I'm not so sure is that I've seen blue being pocket mostly, but I also saw it being flank multiple times in 4v4s.
i don't recall the remaining colors' positions
hope you get a sure answer : )
Blue (player 1) will NEVER be pocket when team position is enabled.

1 3 5 7
2 4 6 8

Players in the middle will always be pockets. In 4v4s, 3 4 5 6 will be the four pockets. While in 3v3s, players colour pick will decide who plays pocket.

If its 1 3 5 / 1 3 7 => 3 will be pocket.
If its 1 5 7 / 3 5 7 => 5 will be pocket.

EDIT: This is referring to ranked games where its always 1 3 5 7 vs 2 4 6 8. Lobby games are a bit more complicated, but the players in the middle will still be pockets nonetheless.
Last edited by TheDiaper; May 24, 2020 @ 11:55am
Mr.America May 24, 2020 @ 11:54am 
Color-coded placement is a setting in the lobby. Colors are enumerated from 1 to 8 and will be placed in (anti?) clockwise order depending on the team's colors/numbers. If you have 2 teams with 1,2,3,4 / 5,6,7,8 then 2,3 and 6,7 will be pockets if the option is marked.

If you have different colors chosen, e.g. teams are 1,3,5,7 / 2,4,6,8 then pockets will be 3,5 and 4,6, etc.

edit: blue is really never pocket? good to know.
Last edited by Mr.America; May 24, 2020 @ 11:54am
TheDiaper May 24, 2020 @ 11:59am 
1 and 8 will never be pockets.

Lets say its 1 3 4 6 vs 2 5 7 8
1 2 6 8 will be flanks while 3 4 5 7 will be pockets.

If its 1 2 6 7 vs 3 4 5 8
1 3 7 8 will be flanks while 2 4 5 6 will be pockets.
mickeyjim2 May 24, 2020 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by HongeyKong (Busty Girl):
1 and 8 will never be pockets.

Lets say its 1 3 4 6 vs 2 5 7 8
1 2 6 8 will be flanks while 3 4 5 7 will be pockets.

If its 1 2 6 7 vs 3 4 5 8
1 3 7 8 will be flanks while 2 4 5 6 will be pockets.
So the highest and lowest numbers on each team will be the flanks while the 'in-between' numbers will always be pocket?
TheDiaper May 24, 2020 @ 8:52pm 
Yes
-Dare Devil/x/ May 24, 2020 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by HongeyKong (Busty Girl):
Yes

-Yes again.
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