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thats a classic
ir doesn't mean their opinion is worthless or they play better it means the highelo player has experience in the "metagame"
and you can assume a low elo player most likely doesn't have that same experience, unless he is a professional analyst or caster that learns and studies the timings and meta of each map without playing at high elo like @HongeyKong
The hypocritical sacarsm htis a new level 111111
Feel free to keep shifting focus but here are some fun facts
According to https://aocrecs.com/maps/ with over 1.2 million match records
The most played maps prior to DE are
1) Arabia (& variances) : 60.0%~
2) Nomad : 10.7%
3) Black Forest : 9.9%
4) Arena : 3.5%
5) Coastal : 0.4%
According to The official numbers [www.ageofempires.com]
The most played maps are
-Arena
-Nomad
-Arabia
-Coastal
-Black Forest
According to a poll on AoeZone[www.aoezone.net]
The maps people wish to remove the most are
1) Rivers : 74.1%
2) Highland : 70.0%
3) Continental : 45.1%
4) Mongolia : 38.9%
5) Coastal : 35.2%
And the maps people wish to add the most are
1) Arena : 62.3%
2) Gold Rush : 58.0%
3) Nomad : 49.4%
4) Acropolis : 40.7%
5) Hideout : 40.7%
Do you know what the most popular maps in the unranked lobbies of starcraft and warcraft are?
The devs really shoud fix the lobbies so the noobs can have a place to play their noob maps withou any strategy, instead of pleasing countless noobs by destroying ranked game.
Shocked to see that the most played Civilization was also the Cumans lmao. Clearly they were the funnest and most enjoyable civilization. Devs need to rewind the nerf on them it seems.
-Over 90% of the 1.2M records on https://aocrecs.com/ were from voobly.
If you didnt know, now you know.
Who doesnt love age of Cumans?
Like everyone loves age of arabia huns war?
Nicov (2k4 / Aftermath / Didnt vote but replied)
Remove : Mongolia / Oasis / Scandinavia / Continental / Coastal
Add : Acropolis / Hideout/ Twin Puddles / Serengeti / Mediterranean / Team Islands
Vinchester (2k3 / Russian Team)
Add : Arena / Hideout
ACCM (2k3 / VNA)
Add : Nomad : Black Forest / Islands / Arena / Baltic / Steppe / Acropolis / Gold Rush / Hideout / Bog Islands
Timotheus (2k2 / aka Feanor / Heresy)
Remove : Scandinavia / Continental / Coastal / Rivers / Highland
Add : Nomad / Arena / Baltic / Steppe
Stefan (2k2 / Arena Clown)
Remove : Mongolia / Oasis / Continental / Coastal / Rivers / Highland
Add : Nomad / Arena / Steppe / Gold Rush / Hideout
Nili (2k1 / Caster / Streamer / Tournament Host / Secret)
Remove : Mongolia / Coastal / Rivers / Highland
Add : Arena / Gold Rush
Rubenstock (2k1 / Suomi)
Add : Nomad
Vodka_L (2k1)
Remove : Continental / Rivers / Highland
Add: Islands / Arena / Baltic / Acropolis / Hideout
Andorin (2k / German Team)
Remove : Scandinavia / Continental / Coastal / Rivers
Inlfeunza (2k)
Remove : Oasis / Rivers / Highland
Add : Steppe / Gold Rush
Poxo (2k)
Remove : Cenotes / Mongolia / Oasis / Continental / Rivers / Highland
Add : Islands / Arena / Baltic / Gold Rush / Hideout
Ganji (2k)
Remove : Cenotes / Oasis / Rivers
Add : Nomad / Islands / Arena
Jupe (2k / Streamer)
Remove : Oasis / Scandinavia / Rivers / Highland
Add : Nomad / Black Forest / Islands / Steppe / Acropolis
Ashleylynn (1k9 / Streamer)
Remove : Cenotes / Mongolia
Add : Nomad / Islands / Arena / Steppe / Acropolis / Hideout
Robo (1k7 / Promoter / Underpaid worker)
Remove : Cenotes / Mongolia / Oasis / Continental / Rivers / Highland
Add : Rivers / Arena / Steppe / Acropolis / Hideout
ZeroEmpires (1k7 / Caster / Tournament Host)
Remove : Ghost Lake / Mongolia / Oasis / Continental / Coastal / Rivers / Highland
Add : Nomad / Islands / Arena / Acropolis / Gold Rush / Hideout
Memb (1k7 / Streamer / Caster / Tournament Host)
Remove : Mongolia / Continental / Rivers / Highland
Add : Nomad / Black Forest / Arena / Steppe / Gold Rush
Pete26196 (1k7 / Aoe2 Reddit Mod)
Remove : Continental / Coastal / Rivers / Highland
Add : Black Forest / Islands / Arena / Baltic / Steppe
Cicero (1k5 / Creator of the interactive build order guide)
Remove : Oasis / Continental / Coastal / Rivers
Add : Steppe / Acropolis / Gold Rush
I want a goal post as xmas present so badly. Can you please give me one?
Best regards, HongeyKong
Clearly the pros know how to make a game for the other 99% of players whom don't ever plan to be at their level, lol. Works great for the fighting game community lol.
Player : What the ♥♥♥♥ is this ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ garbage map pool??? Just listen to the community!!!
AOE2 : Here are the most played maps in our game.
Player : The map pool should not be pleasing the casual noobs!!! They should be competitive!!!
AOE2 : Here are the most played maps on voobly
Player : Voobly players are not competitive!!!
AOE2 : Here is a poll by the pro players.
Player : Pro players are irrelevant!!!
Bring back the Cumans!
And find the middleground between #progamer and meme noob.
The thing is we need a middle ground for the map pool which makes PROS BEGINNERS NORMAL PLAYERS ( like me I think the most people on voobly are around my range) and PlAYERS WITH MORE EXPERIENCE above 1600 Voobly until 1800 Voobly and some VERY GOOD PLAYERS from 1800 until ~2.1k in Voobly. We use to call us self noobs but to be honest people above 1450 ( Voobly) are no noobs and people above 1600 are decent players and after 1800 they are good players, 2k very good players and than there are the pros ( and some in between :D). It's like a Normal distribution function ( Gaussian Distribution). The whole noob calling is somehow not nice and not very possitive it's a negative concept and we should try to do better. Players in NPL Voobly are also noobs or absolute beginners we could also call them bad players but I think more possitiveness and calling them Learners/ Beginners is much more possitive.
I also know how it is that you can better get a concept of what's good or bad if you are at the top and learned more compared to people not knowing so much about the topic or just have the common knowledge about something.
A real live example is this:
I learned Arabic in university and people think I can speak Arabic but the truth is that I can speak some but not very good to have a conversation about every topic adn understand every dialect. They can't completly understand that my Arabic is basic becasue they don't know the language at all.
So to get the middle ground we should not try to please each group for itself and have only 8 maps available but have more available but also more bans. And I would like to have some maps only to be in the team game pool, maybe seperate the pool or make some only available in team games. Also BF could get much more fun if we would play it normal with hardest wolves, which would probbaly lead to Magyars being the best civ on this map early game :D.
Fun fact I looked at the AOK Map pool most of them have been Hybrid maps. And sometimes I feel like the people on AOEZone are just like old Folk telling us a bout the good old times and that they don't want any change because it was so good and great in the good old times of Hunswar only :D. Ok Boomer! ( actually not very booming style player)
@HongeyKong First I Disliked some of your Opinnions but after reading more of your comments it seems you are not the flamming I just want to play my map I am used to play type of player with a narrow view on the topic. Which I really apreciate.