Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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Mayakashiii 24 listopada 2019 o 0:58
Is the AI cheating on Hard difficulty?
I started playing again a few days ago and I'm bored to death with "Medium" difficulty, also the AI seems to bug out and not do anything at some point in the game.

Tried out "Hard" for the past few games and it feels like the AI is cheating now.

Does anyone know how the AI works in this game? Is it cheating resources? It damn sure feels like the AI is getting free resources.
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Boypp 5 sierpnia 2020 o 19:10 
try rushing with byzantines
-Dare Devil/x/ 6 sierpnia 2020 o 11:28 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Franciscos:
Yes, the AI cheats as soon you are advancing in difficulty, it is simple to see the end of any play they have all the gold, all the stone and all the wood. If you play against players and then vs AI you can see that AI villagers are harder to kill because "who knows"

-Please do not spread misinformation.
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grraf 6 sierpnia 2020 o 12:22 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYcxohpnXo0 there u have it from the horse's mouth so to speak...
For me the only cheat like thing it does is have automatic knowledge of a players army counts(this can spectacularly backfire for the ai tho especially when pitted against civs like goth/hun/cuman that can summon up a horde out of thin air and thus catch the ai completely off guard)
Forcedge 6 sierpnia 2020 o 13:16 
Technically the AI is constantly cheating because they know your army composition 100% of the time, and they have maphack. If you make knights, the AI will make halbs without even seeing your army or base.

But as far as resources go, no they never cheat for more resources
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Forcedge; 6 sierpnia 2020 o 13:16
BAD *Man 6 sierpnia 2020 o 16:01 
The AI Cheats
it need just to see one building and it knows everything

thats why when u make skrimishers in the back it will produce counter units even it dont know u prepare this step
This is for me the most annoing part of the new AI

The AI can also cheat resources but this i think they only do if cheats are enabled.
Cringe Isekai Enjoyer 1 października 2020 o 19:58 
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I think they removed all cheating from the AI in HD and DE. It just multi-tasks really well. Especially if you don't attack it early on.

Try rushing the AI with a few units early on a pick off some of it's villagers on gold/wood That will make the game a lot easier. Because on Hard and extreme once the AI has an established economy they spam units like it's unbelievable.

Oh, well, thanks for knowing that. If I confirm that I might as well edit the wiki myself XD Seems that the updated ai from 2013 still cheats at "hardest", so I was a little confused now that I got the DE.
JoshSA 2 października 2020 o 9:33 
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I think they removed all cheating from the AI in HD and DE. It just multi-tasks really well. Especially if you don't attack it early on.

Try rushing the AI with a few units early on a pick off some of it's villagers on gold/wood That will make the game a lot easier. Because on Hard and extreme once the AI has an established economy they spam units like it's unbelievable.

Oh, well, thanks for knowing that. If I confirm that I might as well edit the wiki myself XD Seems that the updated ai from 2013 still cheats at "hardest", so I was a little confused now that I got the DE.

Yeah there's a lot of different AIs for the game over the past 20 years so depending on where you read you get a different story 11
Jouni 3 października 2020 o 9:39 
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Oh, well, thanks for knowing that. If I confirm that I might as well edit the wiki myself XD Seems that the updated ai from 2013 still cheats at "hardest", so I was a little confused now that I got the DE.
Age of Kings and Conquerors AIs: Cheats with resources at higher difficulty levels.

2013 and DE AIs: Never gain extra resources in standard match(Devs have said so). They get extra resources in campaigns but that a completely different thing.

The game's AI programmer said somewhere that DE AI does cheat a bit with information to compensate its poor scouting and its inability to properly analyze the other player. For instance it always knows how many military units you have but it doesn't know what kind of units they are if it haven't seen them. The focus of the cheating is to give AI some general information about the game which would be difficult for it to obtain but not specific information like where your units are.
DrAlfonzo 3 października 2020 o 16:01 
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Oh, well, thanks for knowing that. If I confirm that I might as well edit the wiki myself XD Seems that the updated ai from 2013 still cheats at "hardest", so I was a little confused now that I got the DE.
Age of Kings and Conquerors AIs: Cheats with resources at higher difficulty levels.

2013 and DE AIs: Never gain extra resources in standard match(Devs have said so). They get extra resources in campaigns but that a completely different thing.

The game's AI programmer said somewhere that DE AI does cheat a bit with information to compensate its poor scouting and its inability to properly analyze the other player. For instance it always knows how many military units you have but it doesn't know what kind of units they are if it haven't seen them. The focus of the cheating is to give AI some general information about the game which would be difficult for it to obtain but not specific information like where your units are.
This. Someone already posted the lead AI dev's interview with Spirit of the Law and that's what I got from it.
kph1889 31 marca 2021 o 8:45 
so ive been doing the modded campaigns and i literally can only do one or two without cheating? are the ai's more difficult on modded maps? no way in hell its standard
Tomoko 31 marca 2021 o 22:08 
After watching a few build-order guides online for AoE 2 HD on steam about five or so years back, I quickly found the game comfortable to play.

It's incredibly rude of me to say this, but you're probably just bad. I'd recommend looking up guides. The hard AI really isn't that difficult in reality. If you just wanna play for fun and think that it's the rushing that kills you, I'd recommend playing Arena and Hideout.
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