$25 asking for too much?

[| нsт | Victorino Mora]

Personally I think $25 is asking for a little too much. (And price is a valid criticism people can have)

I understand this game was worked on by 1 person, and they spent hundreds of hours developing their own engine, voicing, and creating puzzles but the reality is nobody cares about how much work is put into something only the end result.

Can anyone who owns this verify that $25 is worth the price?

[Pearlman]

It's incredible after just a few hours how deep and loved this game is. I have payed way more for way less, this is unreal at $25. I hope billy gets rich as ♥♥♥♥ for bringing this masterpiece into existence.

[Duckling]

If you're looking for a big dollar to playtime ratio, then it probably wouldn't be worth it for you, but if you just want a quality experience, its 100% worth

[jshmo]

For a potential 50 hours of gameplay and stuff to find, the price is fine. Indie games are usually priced at arpund 20-30 including games like celeste, another crabs treasure, and more. I would just appreciate it since this could have easily been more expensive.

[Joosh]

I think $20 would have been the sweet spot. Check other places besides Steam, most of the reviews are positive and mention how the game is casual friendly while offering enough content for 100%-ers to discover. If the price is too high for you right now, definitely pick it up on sale sometime.

[I'm cucked]

It's not too much.

[<:)]

quality > quantity

go back to league / poe / CoD or whatever garbage thousand hour playtime you want

[1stn00b]

Not worth it, wait for a min 40% discount sale.

[| нsт | Victorino Mora]

Originally posted by <:):

quality > quantity

go back to league / poe / CoD or whatever garbage thousand hour playtime you want

Quality Vs Quantity is a subjective argument. Especially when not every game is made for everyone. I'm someone who owns 800 steam games, so it's clear money isn't an issue. But if I have to second guess myself with spending 25$ on this when I can spend 30$ on Hades II than there's a clear cut choice that this sort of game isn't appealing to me. And the price tag isn't helping.

By listing games like League/Poe/CoD you are just gate keeping and insinuating people who enjoy spending less for thousand hour return aren't going to enjoy this.

[Courtflash]

I really don't think this is something that can be "verified" tbh. I don't regret my purchase, and I'm enjoying the game, but I was definitely surprised when I saw the price. I live in the UK and because of the introductory sale it was only just under £19 for me, but I expected it to be cheaper. It really is something you have to decide for yourself.

Is it the best thing since sliced bread? I don't think so. Is it a good, fun game that I've only had one issue with? Yes. To me it's not a masterpiece, but it's only gotten better as I've played more. That doesn't mean it was bad to begin with, to avoid any confusion. It was good from the start and is slowly leaning towards great, but hasn't quite hit that mark yet. It definitely immersed me though, and I happily played for hours even though I skipped breakfast and it's now past lunchtime.

It really depends on whether or not the genre appeals to you and what your play style is. I like these kinds of games, I take my time and explore every detail, and after playing for a few hours it's worth the price to me. I would say play it, keep an eye on the time and see if you feel it's worth it before the two hour mark. Like you said, it's very subjective. If I wasn't desperate to go in as blind as possible, I might have waited for a Steam sale, but I wasn't sure if it would go on sale any time soon (other than the introductory sale) and I didn't want to see gameplay pop up in my recommendations.

[Minneyar]

Originally posted by | нsт | Victorino Mora:

I understand this game was worked on by 1 person, and they spent hundreds of hours developing their own engine, voicing, and creating puzzles but the reality is nobody cares about how much work is put into something only the end result.

On the contrary, a lot of people care, and you should start caring unless you want the gaming industry to be a hellscape of small teams owned by giant publishers who layoff all of them on a whim because they're not making a profit right now.

This game was in development for seven years, so realistically, you're more likely looking at several thousand hours of development. For many people, this kind of thing is a once-in-a-lifetime achievement. Hopefully the developer does well enough that he can make another game, but he'd be far from the first indie developer who poured a huge chunk of his life into making a singular work of art and then had to go back to some corporate desk job in order to feed his family.

$25, meanwhile, is less than you'll spend to go see a movie if you buy a bucket of popcorn and a drink. It's less than the cost of dinner at a nice (not even fancy, just nice) restaurant.

And you're asking if $25 is too much for this? That's so short-sighted it's insulting. It's fair to ask if you'd enjoy the game or not; not every game is for everybody. But you need to get some perspective on how much your money is actually worth.

[SecondLeaseGamer]

Price and Value are subjective to the player. I hear its a short game but has almost endless replayability and even more secrets/puzzles to uncover. Enough so, that even 20 playthroughs will likely not uncover everything...

IGN reviewed the game as 9/10 and said they had a team of reviewers playing the game before launch in a community discord to find and share secrets with eachother and they all put well over 40 hours into the game each and most are still playing it.

But thats the thing, you cant take any one person's experience or criticisms as gospel. Really, I'd suggest reading a bunch of reviews and watching people's opinions on youtube, because only you can know what you expect from your money.

[| нsт | Victorino Mora]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

Originally posted by | нsт | Victorino Mora:

I understand this game was worked on by 1 person, and they spent hundreds of hours developing their own engine, voicing, and creating puzzles but the reality is nobody cares about how much work is put into something only the end result.

On the contrary, a lot of people care, and you should start caring unless you want the gaming industry to be a hellscape of small teams owned by giant publishers who layoff all of them on a whim because they're not making a profit right now.

I think my mistake is stating "EVERYONE" when I meant, more so the Casual person. And I still stand by that statement. A casual person is not going to care for the amount of worked poured into something, the end result is usually the telling if something is successful or not. I posted this in another thread about YandereDev (A complete creep) who spent years working on his game, and the end result is just garbage. Ignoring the person and just looking at the art, he spent 8 years doing absolutely nothing, and there are a lot of games in development hell right now or that have come out that did the exact same thing. But a terrible product isn't forgiven for it's time spent, it's simply looked as a terrible product.

Imo 25 is asking a little too much. Used to buying Indie Games for 15-20. (Ones that have been worked on by 1 person) And Movie/Dinner is a bit of a terrible example, I can always replay a game. I can't go back and rewatch the same movie in a theater just because I bought the ticket once.

[SIMON]

Nah, billy deserve the money, he worked alone on literally everything for 7 years.

[dryo98]

dude it's a 15 hour indie game, play it, support the dude, it's a good, long game.

[flamedance58]

There's a thing about Steam where if your game isn't at least $20 that when you put the game on sale it won't alert anyone who has Wishlisted your game. So that might be partially why it's $25.