Assassin's Creed Odyssey

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Mylo-s 24 jul. 2020 às 2:40
Cassandra has very short legs for a woman
Just an observation...
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EF_Neo1st 25 jul. 2020 às 7:32 
Originalmente postado por Perplex:
Originalmente postado por Astran:
Dear OP, long-legged characters in Korean MMORPGs aren't real women. Kassandra's legs are somewhat long because she's tall (185cm / 6ft 2 inches).


Females have longer legs than males and shorter torsos than males IRL. It has nothing to do with Korean MMORPGS.
Lol no, sorry.
Females are not aliens with longer legs.

https://i.imgur.com/25c6sO5.jpg
Aside from small mistake I made there, you can see that from start of upper torso to crotch is the same from crotch to base of foot, for both man and woman.
You can check from head measurement and you can know +- the hight of a person.
She is about 1.55m and he is something around 1.75m.
Seven 25 jul. 2020 às 8:46 
Women actually have shorter legs and arms relative to total body height when compared to men. Models tend to have longer legs than average because it's generally considered an attractive trait, so there is probably some bias in perception.

I did a quick comparison between a random real life model (a non-famous one, just some random woman from a clothing store, so hopefully someone not entirely removed from the average woman) with a straight pose and Kassandra's 3D model, and the relative proportions of legs vs torso was essentially the same. Not exactly an exhaustive study, but I can safely say that there's at least one woman in the world that have the same height proportions as Kassandra.

She's tall, possibly a bit above avererage male height, while Alexios is the same height which would probably make him about average. I've tried to get an estimate based on comparing them to the length of spears or the height of Phobos, but the only conclusion I managed to draw from that is that a) they are either dwarves or Phobos is enormous (horses at the time were much smaller than modern horses), and b) spears in Odyssey are apparently collapsible and Ubisoft has done zero research on ancient weapons (and spears is even one of the less offensive weapon categories in that regard). In the end, the only comparisons you can make is to other people in the game, and both of them seem to be roughly the same height as the average male character, erring on the taller side. Of course, then there are those freakishly tall brutes and polemarchs, so I don't think Ubisoft really put much thought into any of this. I don't know if there are any canon sources for their heights, nor how well that would fit what you can see in-game.

Also, if you're going to compare her build to anyone, don't pick models. Fitness models may be, well, fit, but they are built primarily for form, not function. Body builders are even worse in that regard, not to mention a lot of them are not exactly all natural. Instead, I'd recommend either swimmers or wrestlers, depending on what body type you're looking at. Both are optimized for performance and utilize the full body. Swimmers are more lean for endurance while wrestlers are more bulky for raw power, so they represent two different specializations fairly well.

TLDR: Kassandra looks pretty much what I'd expect her to look like in terms of proportions and build. She'd still stand out like a sore thumb in ancient Greece, due to her occupation much more so than her size, but that's another matter.
EF_Neo1st 25 jul. 2020 às 8:57 
Originalmente postado por Seven:
Women actually have shorter legs and arms relative to total body height when compared to men. Models tend to have longer legs than average because it's generally considered an attractive trait, so there is probably some bias in perception.

I did a quick comparison between a random real life model (a non-famous one, just some random woman from a clothing store, so hopefully someone not entirely removed from the average woman) with a straight pose and Kassandra's 3D model, and the relative proportions of legs vs torso was essentially the same. Not exactly an exhaustive study, but I can safely say that there's at least one woman in the world that have the same height proportions as Kassandra.

She's tall, possibly a bit above avererage male height, while Alexios is the same height which would probably make him about average. I've tried to get an estimate based on comparing them to the length of spears or the height of Phobos, but the only conclusion I managed to draw from that is that a) they are either dwarves or Phobos is enormous (horses at the time were much smaller than modern horses), and b) spears in Odyssey are apparently collapsible and Ubisoft has done zero research on ancient weapons (and spears is even one of the less offensive weapon categories in that regard). In the end, the only comparisons you can make is to other people in the game, and both of them seem to be roughly the same height as the average male character, erring on the taller side. Of course, then there are those freakishly tall brutes and polemarchs, so I don't think Ubisoft really put much thought into any of this. I don't know if there are any canon sources for their heights, nor how well that would fit what you can see in-game.

Also, if you're going to compare her build to anyone, don't pick models. Fitness models may be, well, fit, but they are built primarily for form, not function. Body builders are even worse in that regard, not to mention a lot of them are not exactly all natural. Instead, I'd recommend either swimmers or wrestlers, depending on what body type you're looking at. Both are optimized for performance and utilize the full body. Swimmers are more lean for endurance while wrestlers are more bulky for raw power, so they represent two different specializations fairly well.

TLDR: Kassandra looks pretty much what I'd expect her to look like in terms of proportions and build. She'd still stand out like a sore thumb in ancient Greece, due to her occupation much more so than her size, but that's another matter.
To get the height you can take the head as base and calculate by "heads" to get an average height.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Liyanage_De_Silva/publication/228867476/figure/fig4/AS:300906169028617@1448753029929/Proportions-of-the-Human-Body-with-Respect-to-the-Height-of-the-Head.png

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/e3c7c11e-dea2-4d25-864b-eade9835dc75/d63p75x-995aa2da-8b52-4bbd-a53f-cd28f93c00d9.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvZTNjN2MxMWUtZGVhMi00ZDI1LTg2NGItZWFkZTk4MzVkYzc1XC9kNjNwNzV4LTk5NWFhMmRhLThiNTItNGJiZC1hNTNmLWNkMjhmOTNjMDBkOS5qcGcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.GH9_X9_1tQ9WnbzI1oYUItoDaEIHPxDjawOs69TJESA

This work for making real life draws of a real person, old, adult, teen or child.

By default women look to have longer legs mostly because:
1 - males have something else in the crotch females dont have.
2 - females usually use cloth more close to the body, taking more to the shape of the legs and crotch while males use cloth that leave more room between the legs, making the torso look longer, and the legs smaller, when it is not.
3 - females usually have thinner legs than males that usually have more muscle at the legs, what make female legs to look longer.
Perplex 25 jul. 2020 às 13:20 
Originalmente postado por EF_Neo1st:
Originalmente postado por Perplex:


Females have longer legs than males and shorter torsos than males IRL. It has nothing to do with Korean MMORPGS.
Lol no, sorry.
Females are not aliens with longer legs.

https://i.imgur.com/25c6sO5.jpg
Aside from small mistake I made there, you can see that from start of upper torso to crotch is the same from crotch to base of foot, for both man and woman.
You can check from head measurement and you can know +- the hight of a person.
She is about 1.55m and he is something around 1.75m.


Aliens? Wtf are you talking about. Just because someone have longer legs dont mean they have girafe legs. Take 2 people of the same height and stand them next to each other and you will see that the female have longer legs than the male have.
EF_Neo1st 25 jul. 2020 às 13:33 
Originalmente postado por Perplex:
Originalmente postado por EF_Neo1st:
Lol no, sorry.
Females are not aliens with longer legs.

https://i.imgur.com/25c6sO5.jpg
Aside from small mistake I made there, you can see that from start of upper torso to crotch is the same from crotch to base of foot, for both man and woman.
You can check from head measurement and you can know +- the hight of a person.
She is about 1.55m and he is something around 1.75m.


Aliens? Wtf are you talking about. Just because someone have longer legs dont mean they have girafe legs. Take 2 people of the same height and stand them next to each other and you will see that the female have longer legs than the male have.
No, because women dont have longer legs . . . to have longer legs they would not be humans anymore therefore "aliens" (as a joke, obviously).

The female will "look like" to have longer legs because of the cloth she is using (and will depend on what cloth she is using too).
Or else, it is just your bias making ou see what is not there.
Perplex 25 jul. 2020 às 14:01 
Originalmente postado por EF_Neo1st:
Originalmente postado por Perplex:


Aliens? Wtf are you talking about. Just because someone have longer legs dont mean they have girafe legs. Take 2 people of the same height and stand them next to each other and you will see that the female have longer legs than the male have.
No, because women dont have longer legs . . . to have longer legs they would not be humans anymore therefore "aliens" (as a joke, obviously).

The female will "look like" to have longer legs because of the cloth she is using (and will depend on what cloth she is using too).
Or else, it is just your bias making ou see what is not there.


Well, come back when you have seen a woman naked then.
EF_Neo1st 25 jul. 2020 às 14:04 
Originalmente postado por Perplex:
Originalmente postado por EF_Neo1st:
No, because women dont have longer legs . . . to have longer legs they would not be humans anymore therefore "aliens" (as a joke, obviously).

The female will "look like" to have longer legs because of the cloth she is using (and will depend on what cloth she is using too).
Or else, it is just your bias making ou see what is not there.


Well, come back when you have seen a woman naked then.
Well . . . I started posting exactly because I do but my guess is you think of that because you are the one that have never seen one for real :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
Seven 25 jul. 2020 às 14:17 
There are studies about this, you know. Here's one by the US army, for example: https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a074807.pdf

I'll just quote the entire relevant part and spare you having to actually read it unless you want the entire context:
Thus, while female stature is 6.38% less than male stature , female sitting
height is only 4.77% less (column 3).
Or, to put it another way, the relative length of the legs compared to the rest of the body is less in women than in men.

There are also studies done on skeletons that come to the same conclusion, but you'll have to go find them yourself if you really want. You don't get a woman much more naked than that...
Última alteração por Seven; 25 jul. 2020 às 14:17
Gabriel Angelos 25 jul. 2020 às 14:50 
Originalmente postado por Astran:
Dear OP, long-legged characters in Korean MMORPGs aren't real women. Kassandra's legs are somewhat long because she's tall (185cm / 6ft 2 inches).

188 cm is 6 ft 2.
185 cm is just under 6 ft 1.

Really tall for a woman though , same as a 6 foot 6 dude.
Última alteração por Gabriel Angelos; 25 jul. 2020 às 14:51
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