Pay to win

[ice]

Is this game still pay to win ? It is not gonna do well with todays community on steam if you still have to buy purified fusion stones from the cash shop to stat your gear. Especially with the people buying diamonds setting the price as high as they want depending on how many people are buying them. I know cause I used to be one of them (sorry), people don't want to have to farm millions of gold just to stat 1 set of lvl 50 gear and then do it every 10 ♥♥♥♥♥♥ levels . Cash shop needs to be mostly quality of life stuff, you can still have items in there for people who don't want to spend time questing them like purified fusion stones but there needs to be an alternative way of getting them other wise the game is pay to win and will ruin it for most. Thoughts?

[SPOOKY]

Auction house currency trading has been disabled by gameforge. The only way players can give other players diamonds is the GIFT function in that item-shop. Free to scam.

The first time you need to improve your gear is at level 55. There is no other way arround the itemshop. Ingame options for getting item shop thinks are not realy working. Heavy pay to win

[ice]

guess they will have to learn the hard way like ea and battlefront

[Rikku5]

money rules in this world, and games are another type of business. It would be awesome if we could improve our gear with dailies but it takes u like 2 years to make it XD i hope they change a bit this pay to win point of the game.

[ice]

very few games with cashshops that are p2w make it now a days , having a cash shop is a good idea you can make your game free to play and have a cash shop completely support the game look at fortnite.You have to do it right tho , making it so you have to buy cash shop stuff to play past 50 is absurd.

[ice]

I think having the +ing items is ok in cash shop only but puri's shouldn't be they should be npc sold or quest gained or drops from dungis etc.

[Rikku5]

Originally posted by Tidepod:

very few games with cashshops that are p2w make it now a days , having a cash shop is a good idea you can make your game free to play and have a cash shop completely support the game look at fortnite.You have to do it right tho , making it so you have to buy cash shop stuff to play past 50 is absurd.

Fortnite is not the best example. U can buy skins and dancings but u dont buy weapons to be better than anyone, its not pay to win its pay to enjoy.
I agree they have to make money and its a good idea with skins but not with puris which u need all the time. Without puris u are nothing.

[ice]

er true , I ment it in terms of a buisness making money as you stated earlier . You can make ♥♥♥♥ tons of money from cash shop you don't have to make your game pay to win

[iicycube]

There is still alot big games doesnt even need cash shop to survive, take a look at the population in steamdb..

[ice]

true

[Mihovski]

Well, i played this game to 70 lvl without spending any money. You just need helpful clan.

[DYZ]

I played when there was a 85 cap. I did not spend any money and was in endgame content. It possible but takes you longer. but still doable.

[Mihovski]

Yes. Money just speeding the process. You can make good item sets via special instances.(Hall of Survivor etc.) It takes time(about 10-15 days for good condition set) but you actually can do it without money. And if you have a supportive clan, you can have some good potions and titles going minigames daily.(goblin mines etc.) Runes of Magic is a team game. You can do these without clan but you must have atleast 4-5 person who close to your level. If you can improve your elite skills you can kill most of bosses or elite monsters. For example i solo killed amias about 18 level and solo killed count hibara and his final form about 22-25 level with dirty stats ofc. But it is very easy to make and very cheap.(it cost me about 200.000-220.000 gold)

Couldn't kill Ancalon. She's a beast :(

[Rikku5]

Originally posted by Mihovski:

Yes. Money just speeding the process. You can make good item sets via special instances.(Hall of Survivor etc.) It takes time(about 10-15 days for good condition set) but you actually can do it without money. And if you have a supportive clan, you can have some good potions and titles going minigames daily.(goblin mines etc.) Runes of Magic is a team game. You can do these without clan but you must have atleast 4-5 person who close to your level. If you can improve your elite skills you can kill most of bosses or elite monsters. For example i solo killed amias about 18 level and solo killed count hibara and his final form about 22-25 level with dirty stats ofc. But it is very easy to make and very cheap.(it cost me about 200.000-220.000 gold)

Couldn't kill Ancalon. She's a beast :(

i didnt read anymore since u said u can make good items from hall of Survivors... that dungeon is lvl 55 and now u can reach lvl 100... so it makes no sense what u are saying. without diamonds for puris, U CANT UPGRADE YOUR GEAR to make lvl 70-100 dungeons. so dont lie to people who want to know if they can play this game completely or not

[Mihovski]

Well, 55 lvl items not suitable for 100 lv of course. But you are starting with 1 lvl in this game. It takes so much effort to be lvl 100 and needs so much patience. If you don't have these "trash items" you can't improve yourself. These items only helps improve yourself. There's tons of speacial instances that gives nice armors and weapons with good benefits. And remember this isn't about nice weapon or armor. It also about good titles that can give you good bonuses. This isn't pure PvP game. PvP's just a feature. If you don't wanna suffer, you check it out RoM PvP servers. Not vanilla one.

[Rikku5]

mihovski, i dont know how many time u have been playing but i think u have no idea about improve your gear with stats, gems and tiers... tell me that u got high level weapons at least, +16 and tier 12/13 or armors +16, tier 6/7 and 6 good stats without paying... if u did, then im sorry and u are the boss and have the best clan ever