i am stuck

[unclassified]

i got stuck and seeked then for a walktrough and it says that i have to talk to joe while using the phone so that he distract the room mate so that i can take a look at the book but there is no option for that while i talked with him and when i do it now i have no options at all?!

[adam1224]

At your home:
You need to speak to Joey in your apartment about your ghostly powers and he shows his "breeze" skill ( he blows the shaders / curtains)
at the dormitory:
Ask the girl if you can use the telephone.
After you pick it up, choose the "I want to speak to Joey" option
Ask Joey to repeat his performance, and while the girl picks up the sheet of paper, take the notebook.

[unclassified]

yeah i found the part about asking him about the ghost powers too....kind of stupid but..yeah...

[HebaruSan]

Heh, I asked him to create a distraction before he told me about that power, and he just didn't react at all. That would have been a good time to short circuit this "do you have any powers" conversation. I mean, he still HAS that power even if he hasn't told me about it, right? He knows it can create a distraction, right?

[unclassified]

Originally posted by HebaruSan:

Heh, I asked him to create a distraction before he told me about that power, and he just didn't react at all. That would have been a good time to short circuit this "do you have any powers" conversation. I mean, he still HAS that power even if he hasn't told me about it, right? He knows it can create a distraction, right?

right

[DarkStar]

Ha, I just got stuck on that. I was happy with myself for coming up with that clever way to talk to Joey around other people, but then he didn't do anything... So I have to talk to him in a particular location. Well, this is bad design at this point as far as I'm concerned. +1 for short circuiting.

[adam1224]

I think it was generally thought that people will talk about everything with the ghost at the first time - it's such a thing, speaking to a real ghost!
But if that means something for you, the developer noted in the dev commentary that it was a problematic element, so he tried to make harder to miss puzzles in the later games, he knew it caused problems with some players :)

[DarkStar]

I would of course use every available dialog option, but the initial conversation, when we meet Joey, was siply over. I thought everything was said and the only option was to end the dialog and move on. I talked to him in other locations (or tried to, so he silenced me ;) ), but I think I never tried to talk to him again in Rosa's apartment.

Anyway, thanks for sharing, I try not to read walkthroughs.

[NotThatHarkness]

Thanks for this thread. I got stuck here too. I'm not sure why I missed the ghostly powers dialog with Joey. Maybe it was because he deflected so many of the other dialog options I concluded there wasn't much reason to talk to him. I try to avoid walkthroughs too, but using the phone and getting the distraction was a mystery to me.