Lack of Super Saiyan 2 characters?

[genoezteam]

Hi, I was really looking forward to hopefully a SSJ2 Gogeta, but I don't see him anywhere, so far the only SSJ2 is Youth Gohan and Caulifla, from what I've seen anyway, no SSJ2 for Goku, Vegeta, Trunks etc, do you think they'll be added in a DLC?

[genoezteam]

引用自 Makise Kurisu：

there is ssj2 goku, and trunks, and vegeta. you need to collect more cards/stickers. remember, king of destruction vegeta is super saiyan 2... that was the only way he attained the form in the series pretty much.

I've looked through the list of cards in the gacha shop, are there more sets after you've collected a certain amount of cards? I've barely seen SSJ2 in the lists.

[genoezteam]

引用自 Makise Kurisu：

there is ssj2 goku, and trunks, and vegeta. you need to collect more cards/stickers. remember, king of destruction vegeta is super saiyan 2... that was the only way he attained the form in the series pretty much.

Vegeta was SSJ2 before becoming Majin...

引用自 Prime：

Some cards don't specifically say they are Super Saiyan 2 in the status. However, some characters like Berserk Goku are clearly SSJ2. There's also the Vegeta where he uses the Prince of Destruction ability to transform into Majin Vegeta. However, it's unclear if he's SSJ or SSJ2 in that status.

I think they could add more Goku and Vegeta cards as SSJ2 and clearly define their status as such. Ultimate Mission X has 3300 cards and SSJ2 versions of Goku and Vegeta.

I'd also like to see better versions of Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Right now, players pick better 4 star cards like Super Saiyan 3 Vegito so you just see people using the same cards repeatedly. There's no variety.

Yeah, I agree, I thought that when it says Super Saiyan, it just means Super Saiyan, just like with SSGSS.

[genoezteam]

引用自 MiaowGaiGar：

Apparently they thought making every single Caulifla Super Saiyan 2 made up for it.

Anyway, they're hiding in a couple of places -- although there are even oddities on that front, like the SS2 Bardock whose in-game hair is his SS1 model -- but overall it's the least represented Super Saiyan for whatever reason; it's possibly Goku's most common choice outside of SSGSS in Super, so it's not like it fell out of the public eye.

Ugh, I hate it when they do that, I can understand with Adult Gohan, because his budokai 3 model is like that, but at least for the others make a proper effort to change the hair and aura.

引用自 GrandMajora：

引用自 Prime：

@GrandMajora

He was SSJ at the World Tournament before he went SSJ2 vs Goku. We truly have no idea if he's MV SSJ or SSJ2 since it's hard to tell with Vegeta's hairstyle. So, he could be SSJ or SSJ2.

The difference between SS1 and SS2 is the lightning that crackles in their aura. After he became Majin and started his fight with Goku, they both powered up to a level that caused the lightning to manifest. Thus confirming that they were both SS2 at the time.

https://youtu.be/8nLYTagH1rA

If you want reference, you should use the manga, it's the source material and more accurate.

Here: https://imgur.com/a/gx7yzYW

引用自 Prime：

@GrandMajora

Then you didn't read what I told you. I told you that Vegeta transformed into Majin Vegeta at the World Tournament, before Goku and Vegeta were transported to a safe place by Babidi.

It's clearly demonstrated in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fw1qAVem4E

Therefore, Vegeta was both Majin as SSJ and SSJ2 so we don't know if he's SSJ2 in the game.

I agree, and I feel they should say whether the character is SSJ or SSJ2 or whatever, because at the moment we don't even have auras, though, it'd be nice to have accurate models.

引用自 Prime：

@Makise Kurisu

In Z it was, and Goku still used it several times in several fights after against Black, Zamasu, and Kale and Caulifla. Seems like he used it more than SSG. I only recall him very briefly using SSG against Dyspo and Jiren.

In addition, the Dragon Ball Wiki states, "Unlike the fighting style of a Super Saiyan Blue, which is more about bulldozing an opponent with brute force, the unique fighting style of Super Saiyan God focuses on predicting and dodging opponent's blows and prioritizes godly techniques over raw power." Goku hardly uses SSG in Super.

In conclusion, SSJ2 is more of a balance between speed and raw power while SSG is more for speed and dodging. Sorry, but I needed to correct you too.

Anyway, it's really not that important. The important thing is they need more SSJ2 versions of Goku and Vegeta in game.

Dragon Ball Wiki is not always reliable. Lot's of inaccurate information.

[Prime]

@GrandMajora

Tadayoshi Yamamuro's original concept for SSG was more muscular, wearing a cape and having a hairstyle between SSJ3 and SSJ4. That may have been interesting to see. However, Akira Toriyama came up with a design completely different than that of Yamamuro's design. The two argued over the design for a while with Toriyama insisting the design not be too much different from Goku's normal appearance.

[Prime]

@genoezsteam

Vegeta was never SSJ2 before falling under Babidi's spell in DBZ. Did you watch the video?

I have the game on PC, and my Switch just arrived. So, I will now have the game on both platforms. While it'd be nice to have the auras on PC, it's not a game breaking issue.

However, I think we can both agree that they need to be more specific when it comes to the card status descriptions for each transformation state, and add more SSJ2 characters. Hoping they'll add more cards at a later date and that we end up with the 3300 from UMX. But that's being very optimistic.

[genoezteam]

引用自 Prime：

@genoezsteam

Vegeta was never SSJ2 before falling under Babidi's spell in DBZ. Did you watch the video?

I have the game on PC, and my Switch just arrived. So, I will now have the game on both platforms. While it'd be nice to have the auras on PC, it's not a game breaking issue.

However, I think we can both agree that they need to be more specific when it comes to the card status descriptions for each transformation state, and add more SSJ2 characters. Hoping they'll add more cards at a later date and that we end up with the 3300 from UMX. But that's being very optimistic.

I agree.

I have seen the video, what I'm saying is Vegeta already had access to SSJ2 before becoming Majin, it's a common misunderstanding to think that Vegeta needed Majin to go SSJ2.

[GrandMajora]

引用自 Prime：

@GrandMajora

Tadayoshi Yamamuro's original concept for SSG was more muscular, wearing a cape and having a hairstyle between SSJ3 and SSJ4. That may have been interesting to see. However, Akira Toriyama came up with a design completely different than that of Yamamuro's design. The two argued over the design for a while with Toriyama insisting the design not be too much different from Goku's normal appearance.

And it was a good decision, I think.

There's no logical reason why a racial transformation should affect the user's clothing!

SS4 is stupid...

[genoezteam]

引用自 GrandMajora：

引用自 Prime：

@GrandMajora

Tadayoshi Yamamuro's original concept for SSG was more muscular, wearing a cape and having a hairstyle between SSJ3 and SSJ4. That may have been interesting to see. However, Akira Toriyama came up with a design completely different than that of Yamamuro's design. The two argued over the design for a while with Toriyama insisting the design not be too much different from Goku's normal appearance.

And it was a good decision, I think.

There's no logical reason why a racial transformation should affect the user's clothing!

SS4 is stupid...

That's the thing that bothers me, the change of clothes..then when reverting back the tops still intact.