Lore Discussion - Human Corruption & The Scourge

[AsianGirlLover]

So I’ve recently started a second playthrough of Outward, with my first being a run with the Blue Chamber Collective, and now The Holy Mission.

With that said, I’ve come to piece a few things together regarding the lore, yet I’m still confused in some parts.

1. What exactly is, “corruption,” and why does it seem to especially exist in humans?

2. Why are the scourge known as Immaculates? The very definition of the word implies that they’re pure/clean, which seems to make them seem good, despite their urge to attack humans on sight. The only friendly one simply says it’s a name humans gave them, but then why choose that name for a supposedly evil enemy?

3. Is Elatt misleading humanity into ruin?


I wish the devs put more time into sharing/explaining the lore. I’d love to see a sequel to this game that’s more fleshed out with deeper detail. Hopefully they’ve earned enough funding to make an even greater ambitious game next time.

[EzPaz(Niyaniya's dog)]

I dont believe Elatt is leading humanity to ruin, he is trying to guide them to better path.

Corruption to human are also extremely poisonous, while it is harmless to undead and scourge.

Immaculate might be extremely ancient being that lived deep under the ground as you can see corruption seeping in from the ground and friendly immaculate likes to live in caves as well.

[Thaxlsyssilyaan]

I may not be 100% right about what lies in those spoiler tags, but that what i learned from the Holy mission questline.
Since you do no specify if you ended your current Holy mission playthrough, i put these in spoiler tag. It give you the info about 1 and 3 you can learn during the storyline.


1: Corruption is the result of a spell cast by the wind cabal, that did not ended as planned due to it's target, Elatt, resisted the spell, and thus, the intended spell effect (killing Elatt through immaculate) could no longer physically achieve this goal, and thus, gone wild.

3: i don't think Elatt is misleading humanity into ruins, after all, he is a human who ascended godhood, prone to doing error sometime, since he is not human anymore since long.
Corruption started when the wind cabal tried to kill him by casting a powerfull spell causing all immaculates to focus on destroying him. Refusing to die, Elatt avoided death, and reached godhood through strong willpower, thus, the immaculate, being unable to fullfil their purpose, gone mad, and began a killing spree on human kind.
Resisting a spell that was cast to kill him caused the start of the corruption, but it is natural to resist death. One of the Holy mission quest ask you to teach that to three runaway priest.

Edit: I may be confused about corruption and scourge, since i play the game in french. So feel free to swap those words accordingly.

[197582710232]

Ok based on my knowledge scourge mainly refers to big mini bosses shell horror manticore and immaculate and much more I guess. For human corruption based on what the witch in vendavel said is that when a human wander in the wild for too long and get poisoned for example the wendigo and elatt said about the queen in the levant storyline that the queen of not ascended to godlihood she will turn into something inhuman

[Sotanaht]

Elatt is definitely not a bad guy at all, you'll see that pretty clearly when you get through the Holy Mission story. It's hard to summarize, but he is the best damn "god" I've ever seen in any setting.

I believe that Corruption is a part of the human soul. When Elatt ascended to Godhood, it was because a spell turned his soul against itself. The part that was still "him" refused to die and used the power of that spell (completely unintentionally) to ascend. The part that was turned against him became the scourge. Ultimately the Scourge consists of two parts: part of Elatt's soul, and a TON of mana, so whatever Corruption is in them has to come from one or both of those sources.

There may be a deeper meaning, but Immaculate is the name humans gave them. It could be as simple as "these things don't look at all hideous, compared to all the other scourge monsters they are immaculate"

[Vod]

Originally posted by FRThaxlsyssilyaan:

I may not be 100% right about what lies in those spoiler tags, but that what i learned from the Holy mission questline.
Since you do no specify if you ended your current Holy mission playthrough, i put these in spoiler tag. It give you the info about 1 and 3 you can learn during the storyline.


1: Corruption is the result of a spell cast by the wind cabal, that did not ended as planned due to it's target, Elatt, resisted the spell, and thus, the intended spell effect (killing Elatt through immaculate) could no longer physically achieve this goal, and thus, gone wild.

3: i don't think Elatt is misleading humanity into ruins, after all, he is a human who ascended godhood, prone to doing error sometime, since he is not human anymore since long.
Corruption started when the wind cabal tried to kill him by casting a powerfull spell causing all immaculates to focus on destroying him. Refusing to die, Elatt avoided death, and reached godhood through strong willpower, thus, the immaculate, being unable to fullfil their purpose, gone mad, and began a killing spree on human kind.
Resisting a spell that was cast to kill him caused the start of the corruption, but it is natural to resist death. One of the Holy mission quest ask you to teach that to three runaway priest.

This is basically how I understood it as well.

[MisterSmellies]

Why did they see Elat as a threat before he was a god though?

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by MisterSmellies:

Why did they see Elat as a threat before he was a god though?

Elatt established the nameless tribe prior to becoming a god. He was essentially a rival faction leader and more importantly a dangerous ideological rival, since his idea was to do away with the bloodlines their society was based on. I honestly have no idea why they decided that the best way to kill him was to throw an entire leyline at him though.

[Aegix Drakan]

According to the Wiki...

https://outward.gamepedia.com/Corruption

Corruption is a decaying life energy that's often released when something dies. The harder it is for the soul to move on (and thus, the more negative emotions are pent up in the soul), the more the corruption will cling to the area.

Wendigos and Manticores are definitely not Scourge Beasts.

[Kai]

The Horror beasts are a part of Scourge.
The Immaculates are corrupt puppets I think.

The friendly one in the caves speak of 'fake history' and stuff, now I'm not sure if he is talking about a history before Outward's humanity (like say a advanced civilization, as there are examples of steel construction that are considered 'modern day' architect).

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Kai:

The Horror bests are a part of Scourge.
The Immaculates are corrupt puppets I think.

The friendly one in the caves speak of 'fake history' and stuff, now I'm not sure if he is talking about a history before Outward's humanity (like say a advanced civilization, as there are examples of steel construction that are considered 'modern day' architect).

”Fake history,” is just his way of saying “fictional story.” He legit was just commenting on how he liked reading human books about fictional stories, lol

[Kai]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

Originally posted by Kai:

The Horror bests are a part of Scourge.
The Immaculates are corrupt puppets I think.

The friendly one in the caves speak of 'fake history' and stuff, now I'm not sure if he is talking about a history before Outward's humanity (like say a advanced civilization, as there are examples of steel construction that are considered 'modern day' architect).

”Fake history,” is just his way of saying “fictional story.” He legit was just commenting on how he liked reading human books about fictional stories, lol

But if humans created the immaculates, they'd have to be advanced enough to create 'golems' so to speak.

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Kai:

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

”Fake history,” is just his way of saying “fictional story.” He legit was just commenting on how he liked reading human books about fictional stories, lol

But if humans created the immaculates, they'd have to be advanced enough to create 'golems' so to speak.

I didn’t say humans made the Immaculates.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Well i did the blue chamber quest and i think the Ash Giants is the best quest in the game because of all the lore. The writting was the best in the game.
Short version:
Humans started their own apocalypse but managed to stop it
Elatt protects the lands now with the help of the Vigil pylons
He is also responsible for the light in Monsoon and without the pylons....the scourge would attack and destroy the continent.
Curently....immaculate are being hunted by humans, they have to hide and can't have coordinated attacks for some reason
The source of the Scource/immaculate is the earth itself......could also mean that humanity advanced very much in technology and then the earth(scourge) fought back.....like in that anime i don't remember:)
Anyway, there are more details about religion and Elatt in the quest, it gives a very good point of view.
Remember...there are more races in Outward, some of them i belive are very different and can challege humans very easy for dominance