Valkyria Chronicles 4 Complete Edition

Valkyria Chronicles 4 Complete Edition

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deuxhero Nov 6, 2019 @ 8:48pm
How about you remove Denuvo now?
This malware was bypassed long ago and doesn't stop pirates. It's the only reason I have not yet purchased the game.
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Mhmmm Nov 6, 2019 @ 10:29pm 
+1
tanman500 Nov 6, 2019 @ 10:53pm 
+1

Sega has already removed Denuvo from several pc titles, such as Yakuza 0 and Sonic Mania. I know Denuvo isn't the worst form of DRM, but it would make this pc port better for obvious reasons.
NightLexic Nov 7, 2019 @ 2:37am 
If you guys did some research you would know denuvo is not DRM, its an anti piracy measure which funny enough does its job. It wont stop people from cracking it but it does make cracked games have worse performance vs legal copies. All the horror stories about Denuvo being bad and ruining the game is mostly in part of it not being properly integrated. All software no matter what will cause issues if not done correctly. Is Denuvo DRM no, its a anti piracy measure that does its job well. If you want a comprihensive study on how Denuvo impacts performance (Here's a hint its not very much) here is a nice study to read up on. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/denuvo-performance-loss-test/

Again what i can stress is Denuvo is software and any software regardless of what it does if its implemented poorly its gonna cause issues. Its why Sonic Mania had so many issues because Denuvo was added as an afterthought.
WarStalkeR Nov 7, 2019 @ 4:13am 
Originally posted by NightLexic:
If you guys did some research you would know denuvo is not DRM
O'RLY?
Denuvo Anti-Tamper, more commonly known as Denuvo, is an anti-tamper technology and digital rights management (DRM) scheme developed by Austrian software company Denuvo Software Solutions GmbH, a subsidiary of Irdeto.
Captain Obvious & Captain Wikipedia believe otherwise.
Hadji* Nov 7, 2019 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by NightLexic:
If you guys did some research you would know denuvo is not DRM, its an anti piracy measure which funny enough does its job. It wont stop people from cracking it but it does make cracked games have worse performance vs legal copies. All the horror stories about Denuvo being bad and ruining the game is mostly in part of it not being properly integrated. All software no matter what will cause issues if not done correctly. Is Denuvo DRM no, its a anti piracy measure that does its job well. If you want a comprihensive study on how Denuvo impacts performance (Here's a hint its not very much) here is a nice study to read up on. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/denuvo-performance-loss-test/

Again what i can stress is Denuvo is software and any software regardless of what it does if its implemented poorly its gonna cause issues. Its why Sonic Mania had so many issues because Denuvo was added as an afterthought.


DRM = Digital Rights Management = Anti piracy

Also denuvo can't tell if the game is cracked or not so it doesn't 'make cracked games have worse performance'

You're talking a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when you know nothing about what's going on
Greyhearth Nov 7, 2019 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by NightLexic:
It wont stop people from cracking it but it does make cracked games have worse performance vs legal copies.
My God! Never heard someone say something so stupid, not only you try to defend such a terrible tool that only hurts legal users, but you also give the very same source that proves you wrong (check the graphic of that poorly made review you gave and still shows the oposite you say).
I'd love to see it removed but it looks like SEGA is one of those publishers where the dev team gets to make that decision and they've probably moved onto another project (if they're still around considering how this game did not sell very well.)
Unicorn furf Nov 7, 2019 @ 1:02pm 
If there was any intelligence at Sega, they wouldn't have paid to discourage me from buying it in the first place, but here we are.
SA Nov 7, 2019 @ 1:41pm 
Yup, it’s about time they removed it
CheeseBoar Nov 7, 2019 @ 2:26pm 
I heard that Valkyria Chronicles 4 got updated, and so I came here to check to see if Denuvo had been removed, but then I remembered that this is SEGA, and I chuckled at myself a little bit.

Originally posted by NightLexic:
If you guys did some research you would know denuvo is not DRM, its an anti piracy measure which funny enough does its job.

Denuvo games are validated through Denuvo servers, and you're kicked out of your games by Denuvo, not any DRM that Denuvo is protecting. There are games on the Epic store that run without the client but still require Denuvo activation. If it looks like DRM, smells like DRM, and acts like DRM, then it's DRM.

https://irdeto.com/denuvo/

"Application License Management

Our technology controls and restricts usage of copyrighted works and games. With the unique anti-piracy solution for commercial Windows Applications, for B2B software, the technology features comprehensive license management capabilities for any application.

With all digital licenses handled globally via hosted secure software and a web Application (SaaS), it frees developers from complex software and hardware management."

That's straight from Denovo's website. Denuvo is, has always been, and always will be DRM.
Ravielsk Nov 9, 2019 @ 1:44am 
There is literally no point in keeping Denuvo past the first few months after release. The cracks are already out there so it does nothing against piracy but what it does is that it attaches a ticking time bomb to the game.

Denuvo validation needs Denuvo servers. The second Denuvo stops those servers or they have any issues with them the DRM locks every game with Denuvo in it. Now that may not be a problem now but a few years down the line it might(and considering how quickly Denuvo gets breached its more real than ever) become a problem. The big difference is that digging up code a few months after release to make a denuvo free version is far more easier than trying to find it 5-10 years later.

And lets not forget about the performance penalty denuvo brings with it. Which again punishes only the paying customer.
Anorak Nov 11, 2019 @ 4:48am 
Hi, Sega! Please remove it.
Mellowfungus Nov 12, 2019 @ 7:05am 
+1
Originally posted by deuxhero:
This malware was bypassed long ago and doesn't stop pirates. It's the only reason I have not yet purchased the game.

You could always get a good security software on your PC and just not have to worry about it. Haven't had an issue thanks to AVG.
Lestrad Nov 26, 2019 @ 8:12pm 
I'd rather they make Kai's poncho-less skin outfit available for use. It's in game and in the gallery already. It would be such a simple thing to do ><.
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