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That's what it sounds like, yeah. I suspect they're discontinuing this bundle so that they can make a new one that includes Apollo Justice as well.

I'm gonna stop you right there, they can already do that even without the removal of this "old bundle".

You can actually add games to already-existing bundles. Nothing in steam's infrastructure seems to stop you from doing so. I already commented this link in the TGAA thread but sure I'll link an example here too:

As observed by SteamDB, The "Atari Games Recharged" Bundle[steamdb.info] could even change the bundle discount itself, even, from a 15% discount to 20% on 18th May last year.

The bundle initially contains 3 games on December 4th 2021, then has another game on 14th December, then a new one on June 2nd 2022, even removed and re-added the same game on June 3 and 11, and I could go on but you can just click the link and check.

Its newest game addition, Berzerk Recharged, ACTUALLY released on steam November 2023. Pretty new, huh?

And yet it's in the bundle all the same.

So there is literally seemingly NOTHING stopping Capcom from doing the same if they so wishes. Really makes you think, I hope!

Well if they would do what you suggest - adding a third game into that old package (it's not bundle btw, it's called package), then everyone who owns that so-called "bundle" would have received a third game for free! (obviously they don't want that to happen)

Because you confused the single sub containing multiple games with a bundle containing multiple subs. There's a huge difference between bundles and packages!

那你能不能给456加到123的bundle里顺带在你周年庆的时候降个价

Additional details to my post above:

You can freely add or remove games to bundles, but not to packages, because package = single license that grants you the ownership over several games, so by adding/removing the games from an old package, you will actually modify not only any future purchases, but even the ones that already has been made, so in other words it will retroactively change the content of sold packages!

That's why they are retiring the old "bundle" from sale and going to replace it with the actual bundle!

I must admit that this is not the best worded announcement from CAPCOM, as people are clearly misinterpreting the message to mean far worse than it actually is, and that headline doesn't help, nor the text that reads, '*New downloads of Ace Attorney Turnabout Collection will not be available in the store, but owners will be able to continue to play game'. CAPCOM could have probably have done with not saying that line at all!

Basically, only the particular bundle is being discontinued, and not the games themselves.
You'll still be able to download and play the games you've already purchased, or buy the games separately if you don't have them already, or even perhaps as part of a new bundle they might release soon (now that Apollo Justice is out).

CAPCOM clearly meant well, by offering people the chance to buy the bundle before it goes, rather than just ripping it away on the quiet like lots of other publishers do, but obviously people aren't seeing it that way.

There's obviously no need for everyone to panic here, but CAPCOM, if you're reading this, you could probably do with amending/clarifying or even deleting this announcement to keep the peace!

I know this doesn't mean that the Ace Attorney Trilogy and The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles are being delisted, but still... Why?

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Any idea what the reasoning is, here? Licensing or something?

wild guess but im betting this bundle is going and is being replaced with an AA trilogy + Apollo trilogy bundle, or maybe those two and the great AA games. it doesn't make much sense to have these two bundled with Apollo trilogy released now.

Is there going to be a new bundle with the Apollo Justice trilogy added in as well? Otherwise this is another weird move…

Probably just making a new bundle that includes Apollo Justice sometime in the future.

Lucky me, I already bought it.

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Първоначално публикувано от VinTJ:

I'm gonna stop you right there, they can already do that even without the removal of this "old bundle".

You can actually add games to already-existing bundles. Nothing in steam's infrastructure seems to stop you from doing so. I already commented this link in the TGAA thread but sure I'll link an example here too:

As observed by SteamDB, The "Atari Games Recharged" Bundle[steamdb.info] could even change the bundle discount itself, even, from a 15% discount to 20% on 18th May last year.

The bundle initially contains 3 games on December 4th 2021, then has another game on 14th December, then a new one on June 2nd 2022, even removed and re-added the same game on June 3 and 11, and I could go on but you can just click the link and check.

Its newest game addition, Berzerk Recharged, ACTUALLY released on steam November 2023. Pretty new, huh?

And yet it's in the bundle all the same.

So there is literally seemingly NOTHING stopping Capcom from doing the same if they so wishes. Really makes you think, I hope!

Well if they would do what you suggest - adding a third game into that old package (it's not bundle btw, it's called package), then everyone who owns that so-called "bundle" would have received a third game for free! (obviously they don't want that to happen)

Because you confused the single sub containing multiple games with a bundle containing multiple subs. There's a huge difference between bundles and packages!

I don't trust it works how you think it works. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding something here, but if you notice the part that says "Customers can purchase the bundle again just for new items", then you'll realize that the alternative is customers simply NOT doing another purchase, and hence not getting the new items at all. It's not the expected behavior to get a game for free due to bundles getting updated.

Maybe the missing piece in your argument could be the fact that the "bundle" you're talking about is "must purchase together"-type, and Turnabout collection is such type of bundle. Then yeah, so be it, what CAPCOM is doing rn might make a bit more sense.

But this documentation I linked states both are STILL called bundles. Refer to the earlier part of the article.
In my experience seeing thousands of games, "complete the set" is the more common type of bundle that exists on Steam. But my experience may be biased by seeing too many indie bundles.

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I must admit that this is not the best worded announcement from CAPCOM, as people are clearly misinterpreting the message to mean far worse than it actually is, and that headline doesn't help, nor the text that reads, '*New downloads of Ace Attorney Turnabout Collection will not be available in the store, but owners will be able to continue to play game'. CAPCOM could have probably have done with not saying that line at all!

Basically, only the particular bundle is being discontinued, and not the games themselves.
You'll still be able to download and play the games you've already purchased, or buy the games separately if you don't have them already, or even perhaps as part of a new bundle they might release soon (now that Apollo Justice is out).

CAPCOM clearly meant well, by offering people the chance to buy the bundle before it goes, rather than just ripping it away on the quiet like lots of other publishers do, but obviously people aren't seeing it that way.

There's obviously no need for everyone to panic here, but CAPCOM, if you're reading this, you could probably do with amending/clarifying or even deleting this announcement to keep the peace!

Where are you, and others, getting that information, because "*New downloads of Ace Attorney Turnabout Collection will not be available in the store, but owners will be able to continue to play game." is a pretty concerning line and it does sound like people who bought the bundle won't be able to download the games in the future. If they could, the line would say "New purchases [...] won't be available."

Who the heck is thumbing this news up?! It seems like some ppl are completely buck broken by these corporations.

WHAT

Meh i dont have money for it anyways

BTW, the bundle is on sale now, if anyone wants to grab it before it is discontinued and individual game prices go up.