Character names.

[mad_le_zisell]

Will there be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ localised names or proper original japanese ones?

[mad_le_zisell]

Originally posted by Redblaze27:

A stage play in Japan used Phoenix Wright.

Which wasn't official, as far as i know, ergo no canon.

[Kiryu]

Originally posted by mad_le_zisell:

Originally posted by Foxysen:

Why, to ruin epic moments like "Proof enough for you, Mr. Sahwit? Or should I say... Mr. Did It!"?

Серьёзно? Вот серьёзно? Ты играл в эти игры ради пару дебильных шутеек, убрав которые из перевода игра бы ничего не потеряла?

Originally posted by YHVH:

The spanish subs use the localized names. I hear Ayasato Mayoi but read Maya Fey

That only shows how awful spanish subs is.

So, your argument is "The subs use original names, so original names are better. Other subs use localized names, so those subs are bad" You're just a troll so I'll stop feeding you right now. Bye

[mad_le_zisell]

Originally posted by YHVH:

Originally posted by mad_le_zisell:

Серьёзно? Вот серьёзно? Ты играл в эти игры ради пару дебильных шутеек, убрав которые из перевода игра бы ничего не потеряла?

That only shows how awful spanish subs is.

So, your argument is "The subs use original names, so original names are better. Other subs use localized names, so those subs are bad" You're just a troll so I'll stop feeding you right now. Bye

No. My arguments is "it is original names, so original names are better" and "any translation be that subs, dubs or any media that uses localised names are indeed bad".

[Trixter]

It would be nice to see the original script translated to english. That way Capcom won't have no problem localizing Dai Gyakuten Saiban as it stars Wright's ancestor

[Gale Erick]

The game's definitely gonna use the localized name in English.

Played through the whole series in the English and I feel that the localization carry through the feel and charm of the original Japanese well enough. It's not like the localization completely change the story or characters.

[Mantis]

Originally posted by mad_le_zisell:

Серьёзно? Вот серьёзно? Ты играл в эти игры ради парs дебильных шутеек, убрав которые из перевода игра бы ничего не потеряла? И которые можно было бы прекрасно обыграть и с оригинальными именами? Как было в "Turnabout Sisters", например. Где перевели "Наруходо/НаруходУ".

So you're Russian? (Or Belarusian.) Doesn't that make your opinion quite irrelevant, for the most part at least? The vast majority of English speakers who buy this game will be native English or at least fluent enough to understand it all, and also understood most of the jokes and references in the localisation due to their western exposure to the game's pop culture.

It seems to me that you're mad you won't understand a lot of the script when you eventually (well, maybe) buy this game which won't be available in Russian. For some reason you're taking issue with the fact most western players like the script? As you're not a westerner you're not a part of the target audience. So, Mr Mad, I must conclude that your opinion sucksores!

(Saying that, perhaps you can find one of the faithful English translations out there and translate it to Russian yourself since I'm pretty sure this port can be modded.)

[mad_le_zisell]

Originally posted by Mantis:

Originally posted by mad_le_zisell:

Серьёзно? Вот серьёзно? Ты играл в эти игры ради парs дебильных шутеек, убрав которые из перевода игра бы ничего не потеряла? И которые можно было бы прекрасно обыграть и с оригинальными именами? Как было в "Turnabout Sisters", например. Где перевели "Наруходо/НаруходУ".

So you're Russian? (Or Belarusian.) Doesn't that make your opinion quite irrelevant, for the most part at least? The vast majority of English speakers who buy this game will be native English or at least fluent enough to understand it all, and also understood most of the jokes and references in the localisation due to their western exposure to the game's pop culture.

It seems to me that you're mad you won't understand a lot of the script when you eventually (well, maybe) buy this game which won't be available in Russian. For some reason you're taking issue with the fact most western players like the script? As you're not a westerner you're not a part of the target audience. So, Mr Mad, I must conclude that your opinion sucksores!

(Saying that, perhaps you can find one of the faithful English translations out there and translate it to Russian yourself since I'm pretty sure this port can be modded.)

Не думаю, что такие переводы вообще существуют. Да и порты перевода с одной платформы на другую не такое простое дело. Что до моего мнения, оно таки-да имеет значение как мнение потенциального покупателя. И мой язык тут значения не имеет.

[tomahawk]

Originally posted by Foxysen:

Why, to ruin epic moments like "Proof enough for you, Mr. Sahwit? Or should I say... Mr. Did It!"?

As a Russian who knows learned English mostly by videogaming I've enjoyed the puns in this a lot. It's one of the better localizations that I've ever seen.

Frankly, it's a comedy game as well (drama-comedy) and the names were purposefully chosen to make puns. By directly translating names you are losing on puns, ruining writer's intention. And while it's not possible to directly translate puns, you can still keep the intention of making it pun-based.

/topic

[WarPigeon]

I actually prefer the name "Phoenix Wright" to the original, as "Wright" has at least a modicum of subtlety. The original Japanese is pretty cringy.

[DragDenDFO]

Originally posted by mad_le_zisell:

Не думаю, что такие переводы вообще существуют. Да и порты перевода с одной платформы на другую не такое простое дело. Что до моего мнения, оно таки-да имеет значение как мнение потенциального покупателя. И мой язык тут значения не имеет.

Были попытки перевести первую игру в образе NDS, и там это был просто технологический кошмар, так как перевод требовал замены графического отображения символов. Конечно, если здесь перевод будет храниться в текстовом файле, то техническая реализация перевода будет проще простого... Чего не скажешь о переводе самой игры, где очень много зависит от игры слов, как и шутки, так и улики.

Что касается темы, то я сильно предпочитаю английские, так как лишь эти имена у меня ассоциируются непосредственно с уже знакомыми персонажами. Вряд ли мне будет интересно видеть имена вроде Наруходо и Мицуруги. По крайней мере именно это произошло, когда я смотрел экранизацию с оригинальными именами.

(translation of my last paragraph for English speakers):
As for the topic, I strongly prefer English names, because that's how I'm used to playing this game, and I doubt I'll enjoy it if I see unfamiliar names like Naruhodo or Mitzuruki. At least that was my impression after watching the movie adaptation with original names.

[mad_le_zisell]

Originally posted by DragDenDFO:

Что касается темы, то я сильно предпочитаю английские, так как лишь эти имена у меня ассоциируются непосредственно с уже знакомыми персонажами. Вряд ли мне будет интересно видеть имена вроде Наруходо и Мицуруги. По крайней мере именно это произошло, когда я смотрел экранизацию с оригинальными именами.

Ну, синдром утёнка дело вообще быстропоправимое. По себе знаю. Не помню, правда, уже что я так смотрел, за давностью лет (Покемонов по ОРТ, кажется...), но когда узнал, что в переводе вообще всё попереименовали, меня это так выбесило, что я мигом перешёл на оригинальные имена. С первого раза и безо всяких проблем. Но вообще тут уже высказывали весьма здравую мысль. Дать возможность выбора.

[fender178]

What about localization translation that annoys me is when they drop the use of honorifics in the English text when the language is Japanese and they like Senpai for example. I seems like to me with some localization translations that the devs think that Westerners would't understand Japanese culture. I can understand that meanings of words get lost in translation or something has a different meaning across different cultures. Persona 4 for example had some stuff changed in translation because of difference in cultures.

[Mantis]

It's not that they wouldn't understand it. It's just that most people wouldn't give a s**t and they simply want to enjoy the game. Blunt, but the truth.

[Chapmike]

Originally posted by mad_le_zisell:

Will there be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ localised names or proper original japanese ones?

It would be nice to have an option, but I definitely don't see them changing to the original names after all those years. If Capcom won't bring you what you want, fans still could. Why not make a request on Gamebanana ? It would be better than nothing, and you could buy the game once someone completes the mod from your request. ;)

[mad_le_zisell]

Originally posted by Chapmic:

It would be nice to have an option, but I definitely don't see them changing to the original names after all those years. If Capcom won't bring you what you want, fans still could. Why not make a request on Gamebanana ? It would be better than nothing, and you could buy the game once someone completes the mod from your request. ;)

Those "fans" tend to ask very unhealthy sums of money for a simple work and quality rarely fits me.