My god, just start the game.

[I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym]

I'm an hour in and I've clicked the mouse like 15 times. The story is not good enough to have me sit here and watch cutscenes for an hour. This is horrible. Where is the game?

Edit:
I give up, another 30 minutes and I put together some clues and then put together an assault I didn't even get to play. Refunded.

The first game wasn't bad, and I actually got to make decisions. This game, its constant bickering and crappy dialogue. And, um, like, well, you see... Nobody can just say a damn sentence.

Maybe make a game where I can actually play, and care about the characters instead of badly done cutscenes. I don't want to slog through an hour and a half of blah blah blah just for some X-com lite.

[sgt.greywar]

Originally posted by I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym:

And, um, like, well, you see... Nobody can just say a damn sentence.

I don't mind story or lore heavy game but this is my issue with the dialog in this game. They have given virtually all the talking cast the same verbal tics and tropes.

Was cute for 2 minutes, made me want to punch a kitten by the time our protagonist with decades of law enforcement experience starts stammering at the sherrif like a 15 year old caught with a doobie (the exact same way the grocery lad did 5 minutes prior... ugh).

Coupled with the moron "movie logic" that immediately follows this and the wild swings in tone for no reason, I just skip all the cutscenes now.

[I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym]

Yeah, I really don't mind story heavy games. I play point and click adventures and the odd virtual novel from time to time.

If the story was good, or interesting, it wouldn't be so bad. (Its still atrocious that we don't get an actual assault until an 1 1/2 + hours into the game, or more since I stopped playing.)

Like, I get that Lilly is ignored and kind of looked down upon as Sheriff and they all think she's worthless as they talk over her. But do you *need* the rando cops to have 5 minutes worth of random movie descriptions? Its so horribly done, its worthless and a waste of time, I just don't understand.

[Animal Al]

I'll agree with the OP. Going to probably keep the game but GOOD LORD too much dialogue. Story is fine but at least let us advance it quicker. What happened to the right click advance the dialogue option?

[DeadlyAlbatross]

Not just too much dialogue, but the dialogue is.... not loaded with any meaning whatsoever. Any, any meaning. At all. For about the first half-hour or so, and then those guys crack down the old man's door and that's where ♥♥♥♥ gets real - you get to hear the local circus act vent some deep-seated rage and confidence issues.

The first game started exactly at the right point.
The second one starts... with a tutorial where some guy gets shot. And then it turns out nothing has started, not really. You have to listen to the local Morons Anonymous for another hour, and I've quit reading some classic books for less. Not to mention even Rambo handled that far, far, far better.

Requested a refund.

[Mavrah]

You didn't make a wrong choice. The game is far better without the endless hours of cutscenes that aren't even any good.

[Mavrah]

Skip the cutscenes to try the actual game out for a little while. The actual gameplay is massively improved from the last game.

[Sedition]

I tried to watch the cutscenes in the first game, but quickly started skipping everything. Had no idea who Chaffee was or that Lana and Laura were two different people for most of it.

"Just ♥♥♥♥ off" every time one starts.

Now this sequal.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they're painful.

I have all sounds muted but they're still playing, and loud as ♥♥♥♥.

Had to start the game over after ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up too many times early, having people who won't work together, too shorthanded, and auto-assigning the equipment and getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by that (hate that new waste of time "feature").

And those fkn 20 questions at the start, combined with the XCom ripoff tutorial. Make all that ♥♥♥♥ skippable, instantly.

Women being referred to as 'He' all the time, as well as the sounds not muting makes me think this game wasn't finished.

Should've listened to ACG when he said "wait for a deep sale".

[BrickMurder]

Originally posted by I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym:

I'm an hour in and I've clicked the mouse like 15 times. The story is not good enough to have me sit here and watch cutscenes for an hour. This is horrible. Where is the game?

Edit:
I give up, another 30 minutes and I put together some clues and then put together an assault I didn't even get to play. Refunded.

The first game wasn't bad, and I actually got to make decisions. This game, its constant bickering and crappy dialogue. And, um, like, well, you see... Nobody can just say a damn sentence.

Maybe make a game where I can actually play, and care about the characters instead of badly done cutscenes. I don't want to slog through an hour and a half of blah blah blah just for some X-com lite.

I dont get all the whiners like you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about a cutscene that you can skip.

[BrickMurder]

Originally posted by Sedition:

I tried to watch the cutscenes in the first game, but quickly started skipping everything. Had no idea who Chaffee was or that Lana and Laura were two different people for most of it.

"Just ♥♥♥♥ off" every time one starts.

Now this sequal.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they're painful.

I have all sounds muted but they're still playing, and loud as ♥♥♥♥.

Had to start the game over after ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up too many times early, having people who won't work together, too shorthanded, and auto-assigning the equipment and getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by that (hate that new waste of time "feature").

And those fkn 20 questions at the start, combined with the XCom ripoff tutorial. Make all that ♥♥♥♥ skippable, instantly.

Women being referred to as 'He' all the time, as well as the sounds not muting makes me think this game wasn't finished.

Should've listened to ACG when he said "wait for a deep sale".

You buy a game, skip the whole backstory, then complain that you suck and dont get it?

[Sedition]

Originally posted by BrickMurder:

Originally posted by Sedition:

I tried to watch the cutscenes in the first game, but quickly started skipping everything. Had no idea who Chaffee was or that Lana and Laura were two different people for most of it.

"Just ♥♥♥♥ off" every time one starts.

Now this sequal.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they're painful.

I have all sounds muted but they're still playing, and loud as ♥♥♥♥.

Had to start the game over after ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up too many times early, having people who won't work together, too shorthanded, and auto-assigning the equipment and getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by that (hate that new waste of time "feature").

And those fkn 20 questions at the start, combined with the XCom ripoff tutorial. Make all that ♥♥♥♥ skippable, instantly.

Women being referred to as 'He' all the time, as well as the sounds not muting makes me think this game wasn't finished.

Should've listened to ACG when he said "wait for a deep sale".

You buy a game, skip the whole backstory, then complain that you suck and dont get it?

Reading comprehension fail.

The backstory has nothing to do with the sound not muting, female cops being called he, nor does it contain any information about which cops will/won't work with each other, when they're going to appear, nor explain which equipment should be equipped, how many uses etc. you need.

The backstory has no relevance to the gameplay at all. I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ who Chaffee, Laura and Lana are and my life is longer for not sitting through that ♥♥♥♥.

[sgt.greywar]

Originally posted by Sedition:

The backstory has no relevance to the gameplay at all.

This was my largest gripe after the story being so moronic. This is two games (the patrol management mini-game and the tactical game), tied to a bunch of unskippable, poorly written, wierdly voice acted, trash anima-story-slides that don't actually affect anything.

When the story *attempts* to tie to gameplay (like the "chief battle" days) the game actually rigs it so that your gameplay results don't matter. Being "on rails" is not supposed to be a target goal in game development.


It is mind boggling.

[D_REVAN]

Guys , this is a tale about a very dificult man, yeah the beguining takes time, but after the whole game i must say that the videos are very important, of course not every one is going to be happy about it, but those introductions are necesary to explain the plot, and i must say that some are very good scenes, but yeah , not everyone cup of tea, still, very good writting, like or not is good writting.

[sgt.greywar]

Originally posted by D_REVAN:

like or not is good writting.

This is how the game devs would have written your single line:

"Bob, What I mean is... errr uh, you see... the writing is... Writing isn't easy and... (cough) well, you how there is good and bad stuff right? Like Good and Evil and Yin and Yang? (Did you see the baseball game?) Well anyways, back to my original point... Shirley, the thrust of this, the real gist I mean... is that... well, you just can't... you see... the writing is good and stuff."

No, the writing is trash like the above.

[I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym]

Originally posted by BrickMurder:

I dont get all the whiners like you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about a cutscene that you can skip.

"Psh, just skip all the story content in this story driven game."

This game is barely X-Com lite, and it doesn't even do that very well. If I wanted to skip all the things that make the game unique, I'd just go play X-Com again.

[DeadlyAlbatross]

Originally posted by sgt.greywar:

Originally posted by D_REVAN:

like or not is good writting.

This is how the game devs would have written your single line:

"Bob, What I mean is... errr uh, you se... the writing is... Writing isn't easy and... (cough) well, you how there is good and bad stuff right? Like Good and Evil and Yin and Yang? (Did you see the baseball game?) Well anyways, back to my original point... Shirley, the thrust of this, the real gist I mean... is that... well, you just can't... you see... the writing is good and stuff."

No, the writing is trash like the above.

Epic precision. If I could 'like' a post on steam, I'd do just that :)

It also might be the case of writing being extraordinaly good at depicting people who can barely articulate a coherent thought without circular reasoning. It might also be the minutes of a Morons Anonymous meeting. We'll never know.

I quit reading Proust for that reason - the near-pastoral idiocy and hypocricy was depicted all too well for reading about it to be anything but torture.