Heat Exchangers Doubling % Drain After Turning Energy Use/Seasons Off Then Back On

[Lee Hawkins]

I am on the public beta test branch (0.8.6.11). My game is pretty messed up and I only have an ancient save file from before I laid out an entire town...so if there's a way to reset this, i would love to know about it. EDIT: I figured out that I am indeed dumb and forgot to supply electricity to the heating plant. 🤦🏻‍♂️ However, I discovered a bug that makes the heating plant falsely report that everything is working properly when the building actually has no electricity lol! So ignore what I crossed out...please 😁

First off, I had problems with crime overrunning a city even with 3 police stations. And one thing that really aggravates me is that whenever I turn off C&J, it also disables seasons for some reason. It would be great to see if that can get fixed.

Also, when I turned on seasons again, it doubled the % drain on ALL of my heat exchangers. I cannot find a way to reset this. I reloaded old saves of the same city, and all the heat exchangers doubled in % drain. If I disable Energy Use and reenable it back to Buildings & Vehicles again after this, all the heat exchangers show 3x the prior drain, and it will multiply by one more every time I do this...or if I disable and then enable seasons. *FURTHER INFO:* The game processes heating correctly when I check the current production bar and the overlay, nothing is actually overloaded. The calculation for how much drain is on the heat exchangers is the only thing that's off. I'm guessing there's a set of variables that get incremented when the heat feature gets turned on and as buildings are added, but for whatever reason they aren't cleared out before they get incremented again.

The worst part of this is that I built a new heating plant, and for whatever reason it will NOT heat up a directly connected heat exchanger. Those built before I turned seasons off and then on were still working, but I could build heat exchangers all day long on my most recently built heating plant and it will NOT heat them up. I've tried different ports on the heating plant, I've tried underground and overground heat pipes, and none of the heat exchangers will heat up their tanks, nor will they draw any electricity. The heat exchangers don't report any problems, and they are connected to electricity via substation. There are no pumps in between.

[moa]

But you can still turn seasons off again right? How about you fix it in spring, like May or something.

[ArminiusdeCherusk]

For C&J, PRESS CHE , this activates CHEAT MOD. There you could find a tool to reset crime. Alwyas check 2 or 3 times a year in your police stations/prisons and court houses if they are not full. If you realisze it too late ( sadly no warning popup yet) , you will have a death spirale and need to reset it again.
With rest i would recommend to send save file to devs.

[Lee Hawkins]

This actually doesn’t solve the problem...when I turn seasons back on, a heat exchanger that should be at 86% drain goes from 152% drain to 238% drain.

Originally posted by moa:

But you can still turn seasons off again right? How about you fix it in spring, like May or something.

[Lee Hawkins]

I flat out turned it off for a year. The problem is that when I turn C&J back on, it always automatically turns Seasons off...which has to be a bug. When I turn Seasons back on, it breaks the game and makes it so my perfectly functional new heating plant no longer heats up ANY heat exchangers...with the additional side effect of doubling the reported drain on my heat exchangers. What I think I need is a way to reset the heating system in the game, so that my new heating plant and new heat exchangers work, and so the drain on all my existing heat exchangers is reported correctly. C&J is not my serious problem here, it’s heat. I can’t get any new heat exchangers to heat up on this new heating plant no matter where I put it or how I connect it. Everything for the heating plant and heat exchanger in question is vanilla. I do have a few heating plants elsewhere on the map that are geothermal...but I also have plenty of vanilla coal heating plants and everything connected to them is working.

I do really hope they revamp the heating system in the game though. It’s pretty much pointless to bother with pumping stations since the falloff is so huge after them. I’ve found that the dropoff is so bad after even a kilometer from the heating plant that I almost want to just plop in geothermal plants everywhere I can so that the heat actually works. I’m playing on a populated map here with a really huge city on it...I don’t want coal heating plants on the waterfront right next to my citizens billowing out pollution, so I put them across the river, but then I have to extend the pipes for at least a kilometer in most cases, and by 1500m the heat is nowhere near adequate to the task during the coldest months. I’ve also had inconsistent results—sometimes I extend with a pump and everything is warm and toasty 1600m away, and other times things are too cold when I’m only running 800m from an entirely different heating plant and zero pumping stations. The whole mechanic is unpredictable and inconsistent, which means there have to be some bugs in the code. I hope they’ll circle back to this and fix it...

Originally posted by ArminiusdeCherusk:

For C&J, PRESS CHE , this activates CHEAT MOD. There you could find a tool to reset crime. Alwyas check 2 or 3 times a year in your police stations/prisons and court houses if they are not full. If you realisze it too late ( sadly no warning popup yet) , you will have a death spirale and need to reset it again.
With rest i would recommend to send save file to devs.

[Lee Hawkins]

UPDATE: I revised my post because a.) I discovered a bug with the reporting of the status of the heating plant, and b.) I am dumb and didn't check to make sure the heating plant had electricity.

There's still a bug with miscalculating the drain on heat exchangers, and it should be a simple fix. There's also still a bug with turning C&J on/off also turning Season off for some reason. So just ignore what I crossed out lol...and if you're a developer on the team, or you're Peter...THIS GAME ROCKS! THANK YOU for creating something I could only ever have dreamed about! This game combines the features of so many game genres and presents such awesome challenges. I can't even believe that you're still not finished! It's incredible! Thanks again!

[3division]

Thank you for positive words on the game, happy to read like that!

About your problem.. I was not able to reproduce the problem when crime turning off, turns off also the seasons.. I just started the map with crime enabled, electricity buildings only and seasons.. then I was turned OFF crime.. I was not prompted to restart game.. could you maybe try again if you can.. if you have such save where it happening... please send it to us http://sovietrepublic.net/support thx!

I was reproduced the problem with the heating exchangers.. we will check on this in the future version, we also making something for water there (it is possible on this version it will be already fixed because we a bit revised the code there).. I think problem is the building getting twice or triple the heat water tanks causing this..