Extreme Inflation of fuel , bitumen and oil prices

[superurus]

Hello , in my recent cosmonaut game in version .10 I experience an extreme amount of price inflation of all oil related products. I a m now in the year 1978 and the prices are already extreme. Thus far I have been only importing large amounts of oil due to the lack af available ressources in order to refine it. The price of fuel is now at 4000 rubels , bitumen ist at 6200 ruebls and oil costs 2000 rubels. Are these extreme prices intended or is this possibly a bug ? Greetings

[4X-Fan]

If you import huge amounts by truck or train then this (plus the normal inflation coming on top) might explain a higher price, as you likely hit the volumes triggering a demand-based price increase.

However, the prices you have a pretty extreme, so maybe there is something wrong indeed. I would recommend to make a bug report so that the devs can investigate.

[superurus]

The prices are ludicrous. Nearly 12000 rubel per ton of bitumen in the year 1978. There has to be a severe bug. I reported it. Greetings

[forzion]

Those numbers look broken but still the question is what is the large amount and why do you need that.

[forzion]

I would really like to see the stats.ini from your save but I did not found your save uploaded through Support form yet. Can you share the stats.ini file with me? You can find it in save directory.

[superurus]

In my recent game I rely only on imported crude oil in order to refine it. I import about 200 t per day and after a while the prices started to explode.
I will upload several recent savegames with a detailed explanation of this problem to the official 3D Division bug report site. Greetings

[forzion]

200 t per day is a lot. It is 15.000 t in 75 days and 73.000 t in a year. With those numbers I do not wonder your prices are off the charts.

With 15.000 t of imported oil I can supply a republic with 30.000 population. Do you have 150.000 population?

My republic is in year 2020 and still I have only 2-3x the initial oil price importing only what I need.

[pryt]

People should just stop using trucks or trains to import Oil. A tanker that brings in 2,770t of Oil is much better in the long run.

I assume these numbers come from Oil-Import by trucks ...

[superurus]

No , oil import is done strictly by trains.

[4X-Fan]

Originally posted by augustkekule:

No , oil import is done strictly by trains.

Which is - for pricing purposes - as worse as by truck. Only imports/exports by ship/plane count towards a much more lenient limit until the price starts to react.

[superurus]

I know that exports via ship won´t affect the price changes as much as exports via train , however these recent price changes in my game are extreme.

[forzion]

Originally posted by augustkekule:

I know that exports via ship won´t affect the price changes as much as exports via train , however these recent price changes in my game are extreme.

The changes in price are extreme but if there would not be the tweak for the mechanic it would be 5x worse.

You are importing way more oil than you need so you are heavily penalized. You can still mitigate it by exporting bitumen and fuel but I think you are rely on petrochemical industry too much. You know it is like with drugs. Easy way to get rewarded by good feelings (profits) but then you nee more and more and the goal of the game is not to have huge profits because I do not see any other reason to import that much oil, only to make profits.

But I think you republic is doing well despite the price action in petrochemicals and you probably have a lot of money in your account already so you can cut imports without any risk.

[forzion]

Originally posted by pryt:

People should just stop using trucks or trains to import Oil. A tanker that brings in 2,770t of Oil is much better in the long run.

I assume these numbers come from Oil-Import by trucks ...

It is not necessary. They only need to import what they need instead of huge imports in hope of huge profits. I am importing oil using trains and the price is barely affected but I import only a portion of what we process as I have enough home produced oil.

[superurus]

The main problem is that I am earning way too much money. I have now more than 50 million Rubel and this is only because the prices for bitumen and fuel are so extremely high

[forzion]

Yeah, but that is because of how prices are calculated. This is one of the reasons the petrochemical industry is OP in real life too. But if you will continue then you may run into situation when you will pay more for oil than you earn for exported fuel and bitumen.

[superurus]

Maybe I should be just glad my rrepublic is now doing so well after 14 years of an extreme struggle :)