CPU slows down to 0.5GHz

[ralfaltmann]

Hi,

my specs:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
128GB RAM
Geforce RTX4080

SR:WR makes my CPU going down to 0.5GHz. BIOS and GPU drivers are up to date. The problem with the Ryzens has also been reported for other use cases (not only gaming), but this game seems to enforce it :D

It happen almost every time when playing the game, and it doesn't happen for other games (thank god). So, it seems that there's something within this game which makes the CPU crazy. Unfortunately, currently I can't reproduce the exact steps.

I hope one of the developers will read this and get in contact with me.

Anyone else has this problem either within SR:WR or any other game?

Regards

[ralfaltmann]

*bump*

I updated chipset drivers and disabled DOCP for RAM, the bug is still occuring. Regarding reproduction of the bug, I loaded a game yesterday and simply let it run. When I came back, the CPU was down to 0.5GHz.

No one with a similar CPU having the same issue?

[Vimes]

Just curious......

If your game, WRSR, is running ok, or as good as it is going to be, what is the typical CPU loading AND also the GPU loading..?

Then when it is running as problematic as you describe what is your GPU loading and also the GPU clock speeds..?

What resolution do you run at..?

You are noting your overall CPU speed at 0.5Ghz..? So what are the individual cores running at..?

[ralfaltmann]

Hello Vimes,

Originally posted by Vimes:

If your game, WRSR, is running ok, or as good as it is going to be, what is the typical CPU loading AND also the GPU loading..?

Then when it is running as problematic as you describe what is your GPU loading and also the GPU clock speeds..?

I haven't noted down the values when playing, but I can do if it's helpful. Do you know a tool which can log those values to a file?

Originally posted by Vimes:

What resolution do you run at..?

2560x1440

Originally posted by Vimes:

You are noting your overall CPU speed at 0.5Ghz..? So what are the individual cores running at..?

This value comes from Windows task manager, which doesn't show the individual core frequencies. I assume the value shown is the mean value over all cores. So, I'd need a tool which can show the settings for the individual cores.

Regards

[Vimes]

Is your 4080 GPU a recent purchase or have you had it for a while AND at some point, with that card fitted, did the game run as expected..?

Thanks

BTW when the CPU overall loading is noted as being a problem what FPS are you getting..?

When it is, the CPU, running as expected, what FPS are you getting..?

FPS being a rather imprecise, but we have it, measure of the games smoothness and performance.

Do you have a second monitor to measure these values when the game is running or are you using ALT-Tab to reveal the task manager..?

[ralfaltmann]

Originally posted by Vimes:

Is your 4080 GPU a recent purchase or have you had it for a while AND at some point, with that card fitted, did the game run as expected..?

I have the 4080 since July. Before I had 2x 2080. I had the same problem with the 2080s, but not from the beginning.

When I bought the game, all was fine, never had that issue. If I remember correctly, I bought the game when it came out. There was a long time where I didn't play it, just looking for updates giving new features. Do you assume it's possible that one of the latest game updates or the GPU driver might be the issue?

Regards

[ralfaltmann]

Originally posted by Vimes:

BTW when the CPU overall loading is noted as being a problem what FPS are you getting..?

When it is, the CPU, running as expected, what FPS are you getting..?

FPS being a rather imprecise, but we have it, measure of the games smoothness and performance.

Do you have a second monitor to measure these values when the game is running or are you using ALT-Tab to reveal the task manager..?

I'll provide the FPS data. I'm using two monitors, so the task manager is placed on the 2nd one. Sometimes I'm Alt-Tabbing out of the game, doing other stuff when waiting for construction to finish.

[Vimes]

Thanks for the reply, I added these parts after I initially posted :)

BTW when the CPU overall loading is noted as being a problem what FPS are you getting..?

When it is, the CPU, running as expected, what FPS are you getting..?

FPS being a rather imprecise, but we have it, measure of the games smoothness and performance.

Do you have a second monitor to measure these values when the game is running or are you using ALT-Tab to reveal the task manager..?

EDIT: Just seen your reply.....

[ralfaltmann]

Originally posted by Vimes:

Thanks for the reply, I added these parts after I initially posted :)

Yeah, I saw it after answering :D Please see my 2nd post.

[Vimes]

Originally posted by ralfaltmann:

Originally posted by Vimes:

Is your 4080 GPU a recent purchase or have you had it for a while AND at some point, with that card fitted, did the game run as expected..?

I have the 4080 since July. Before I had 2x 2080. I had the same problem with the 2080s, but not from the beginning.

When I bought the game, all was fine, never had that issue. If I remember correctly, I bought the game when it came out. There was a long time where I didn't play it, just looking for updates giving new features. Do you assume it's possible that one of the latest game updates or the GPU driver might be the issue?

Regards

Is that with the same CPU / motherboard combination, albeit with the two 2080's..?

Yes the FPS information when the problem is not occurring and then when occurring might be useful.

GPU loading also.


How "complete" is the map you are playing, in terms of population etc and do you use all the highest eye candy settings..?

[Vimes]

The problem with the Ryzens has also been reported for other use cases (not only gaming), but this game seems to enforce it :D

so this is something not completely related to this game only, just that WRSR seems to emphasise it..?

[ralfaltmann]

Originally posted by Vimes:

Is that with the same CPU / motherboard combination, albeit with the two 2080's..?

Yes, I only changed the GPU and added an additional M.2 SSD in july. No other modifications since I bought the system a few years ago.

Originally posted by Vimes:

How "complete" is the map you are playing, in terms of population etc and do you use all the highest eye candy settings..?

Current game is a random map with population and cities, etc enabled. Graphic settings were always the highest for both 2080 and 4080.

Originally posted by Vimes:

so this is something not completely related to this game only, just that WRSR seems to emphasise it..?

Yes. After the problem occured I tried figuring out what might be the issue. Searching the web revealed that the Ryzen series (not only my CPU model) has this... let's call it effect... Some results implied that it has raised when a dedicated Win10 update came out, others are saying that the CPU raises an overtemperature flag and throttling back for safety, etc etc etc

I doubt that it's a temperature issue (or hardware in general) because I've other games which need much more CPU and GPU and those are running well for hours.
I also tried some of the solutions which worked for other people like switching Windows power plan, disabling DOCP, etc. but none of them helped. I'm also not using hardware vendor tools for illumination things, some stated that they got rid of the effect when uninstalling such tools or using older/newer versions of them.

Regards

[Vimes]

Originally posted by ralfaltmann:

Current game is a random map with population and cities, etc enabled. Graphic settings were always the highest for both 2080 and 4080.
Regards

What population do you have currently and can this issue you describe start at a new map with zero infrastructure and population...?

[ralfaltmann]

Current map population is ~17k if I remember correctly. The map started with ~18-19k. Never tried to reproduce it by playing an empty map.

[Vimes]

When I first replaced, to go into another machine, a 3070 GPU with a 4080 I noted issues with this game. Much of the CPU loading seemed to go to the GPU and the performance was not was expected, as I monitored that previously.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021491289


This is a similar screenshot (I run at 4k with my 4080) as previous.....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3036440951

the CPU loading is higher and, more importantly, the GPU loading is no longer at 100%.

Even tho I had a 3070 installed, same drivers etc, I needed to use a driver cleaner and then do a "new" install of the latest Nvidia drivers for the game to perform as I expected, due to being able to monitor more detailed information.

[ralfaltmann]

Interesting... those performance overlays can be enabled ingame?