pipes underground are terrible to deal with

[Towelie Clegane]

having to deal with "proper slope required" while trying to connect pipes underground is annoying.
i just wanna click, click, boom : theres a pipe.
not mess around for 30 minutes trying to elevate terrain, play with the elevation of the pipe just for it not being to connect at all.
and why do i need a switch ? just connect the pipes together like roads ?

[Titule]

Originally posted by Towelie Clegane:

i just wanna click, click, boom : theres a pipe.

You're not fit for the game yet.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Pumps deal with the "proper slope required", plenty of other ways to deal with it without using terrain tools. Can also just not use water/sewage system if you find it too annoying to setup.

[High King Lemur]

This is probably the moment where you should realise you have to plan better.

[Polkovnik Berezin]

Or, as this game is very granular with its settings, you can play without water management if you don't enjoy it.

[Beast of War]

Yes, especially the sewer pipes can be horrible.

While you can pump sewage even uphill ( as long as the pipes between the pumps have a downward grade ) the main cause of failing connections ( cant connect or wont be drained ) is that the inlet destination is higher then a pump outlet you can construct.

So you can save yourself a lot of trouble to be sure the sewage cleaning facility or sewage outlet ( when you chose to dump it unfiltered ) is not in higher elevated terrain then it's surroundings.

In short : the destination should always be lower then where it comes from. Including if that is a pump, and pumps outlets are only as high as the ground level is you build them on.

What happens a lot too is that the sewage pipe won't allow to go under another line, while the grade should allow to connect it to the destination. This can be addressed by drawling the pipe from the destination until past the bothersome line, and then connect it from the source. When you do this ( draw the pipe from destination to source, instead of the other way around ) there is a chance it will not drain however.

[Runthgar]

You can use q/e to adjust the depth below ground of the end of the pipe you are placing.

There are different depths of sewer pumps as well, with a bit of planning and the 15m pump you can get up some fairly significant slopes.

Another trick to sewage is that the sewage tank (the structure all the buildings connect to to be considered attached to the sewage network) does NOT have to be lower than the buildings it serves. Try to put it on the uphill side of the buildings you are trying to drain sewage from. Even being just a couple of meters higher in initial elevation can make a huge difference in long sewer lines.

[Searry]

Originally posted by Titule:

Originally posted by Towelie Clegane:

i just wanna click, click, boom : theres a pipe.

You're not fit for the game yet.

Very useful comment. You're not fit to comment on a forum yet.

[Delle(DK)]

regarding pipes, then heat, water is pretty easy on what i will call flat/normal terrain with a few small hills. Sewage require you use the ingame mesuring tape to mesure your start height and your exit height.
Sewage run downhill so to speak so you always want to go downhill.
Actually start on the first avaliable map ( the campaign map ) it is the most easy one to build sewage systems in since its mostly flat and ideal for sewage systems.
Make the sewage system FIRST, and water and heating as the last one.
Reason are the sewage system need to be "perfect" while the water and heating system can go up and down and under other pipes.
Prop tip.. you can install pipes in a different height below tround.
Click and drag example your water line and then press Q/E button and you can lower/raise the pipe below ground.
Example put sewage in depth1, heating in dept 2, and water in dept3
Be aware soding this make it more expensive the deeper you go, but for simplicity this could be usefull for new players.

Els be VERY aware of the game mechanics.
Exaple sewage do not need pumps if you go downhill or its flat.
But example heat you need a heating pump example every 500m and you need to pay special attention to how much m3 hot water a pipe can move and how muc is used by your buildings..
And water requier even more.
water well - pump - water cleaning to 99% for drinking water - pump - city

regarding sewage and height.
technical speaking you can build a sewage pipe up a mountain if you know how the sewage pump work and know how to mesure start and end height.
( the mesure tool is on the lower tool bare to the right, it look like a check board, and then there is a mesuring tape that can give you all kind of information ).
( tip it can also be a good ide to level terrain before you build something on top of it.

tip.. if you play on the lower difficulty then i think you can click and quick build anything and then example sewage system are simplified and much more easy.
Also try and press ESC and you can turn on/off features in the game so you can so to speak make the game as difficult as you want.

[Arran Chace]

Originally posted by Searry:

Originally posted by Titule:

You're not fit for the game yet.

Very useful comment. You're not fit to comment on a forum yet.

You read too much into it, You're not fit to be on the Internet yet.

[Towelie Clegane]

thanks all for the replies, with your help, i was able to finally manage it and found the desire to play again

[Towelie Clegane]

forget what i said, **** is ********
destroying an existing pipe by mistake and not being able to rebuild it instantly clearly shows theres something wrong with the program itself.
sewage pipes are the end of me and i cant turn it off in the campaign.
im willing to add a gazillions pumps but still get "proper slope required"
trying to zoom in and play with the underground view is disgusting. i cant see anything properly.
this is really a downside of the game. i wanna deal with logistics, not some 3D underground height bull****

[Towelie Clegane]

heres an idea, how about a switch and a pump in the same building, doing both functions.
too much to ask of soviets ?

[Axebeard]

Originally posted by Towelie Clegane:

having to deal with "proper slope required" while trying to connect pipes underground is annoying.
i just wanna click, click, boom : theres a pipe.
not mess around for 30 minutes trying to elevate terrain, play with the elevation of the pipe just for it not being to connect at all.
and why do i need a switch ? just connect the pipes together like roads ?

Best solution I've found is to make sure the source and destination are the same height (if they're close), or drop the height to 5/10/15m below ground and use the pumps. It only bothers me when the points are 20m apart but can't connect.