heating problem

[Visurex]

once winter arrive my small heating plant can't keep a very small town at a sufficiant heat level and all my citizens leave at once . . .
when they begin to leave , there isn't anyone left to work at the heating plant and its game over.
did someone encounter that problem ?
happend 2 times to me with 2 different city's

[Dio_gênesis]

HI mate, to solve this problem you must plan well the amount of heat to be pumped by building or house according to need, and to ensure that there is never a lack of workers or resources it is interesting to use warehouses and cable cars to guarantee constant supply.

So try to make a big supply system for heat and electricity as well as both are vital resources and better to have too much than too little.

[Grzegorz]

It can also help to designate that heating plant as a workspace for ppl from one one or two buildings. Fully staffed plant means hotter water, whie too little workforce means colder water.

[Delle(DK)]

tip. Build the heating plant close to the city so that people can always walk there.
Next select one of your buildings and manualy select where the people should go to work.
example 30% to the heating plant, 50% to the bus stop, 30% to the hospital.
It is a good idea to do make this a habbit for critinal buildings so they are always manned.
Also another thing you need to be aware of.
Make sure there is always electrictiy.
And make sure there is a coverage of water and sewage.. it is okay with just the most basic
water and waste well just refill them now and then.
And ofcourse you need coal. I usualy build a small storage area for coal and a conveyer that refill the heating plant all the time.

( i do the same with the coal power plant, ahve some workers withing walking distance so there always are someone who can walk there. )
And avoid making a city with public transport that run on electricty if you DO NOT have a 100% up time of electricty always.. If there is no power = no transport and it can really make your day bad if there is no power.. so pay special attention to always having critial buildings manned and that someone can walk there just to make it operate at a minimum.

[StoneFire!☭]

Keep in mind with the above tip that the heating plants produce pollution, and pollution will kill off your citizen living in the affected area.

Your problem is overall one of the more critical to get right, something that I myself also struggle with sometimes. My recent start in the beta patch I've come to the realization that building a heating plant larger than you need is best idea for making sure it's always manned. What happens when you build a small 6 man plant is that once a bunch of workers are dropped they all basically leave at once and is harder to maintain a constant flow of workers timed just right to replace them, so by building a larger plant with space for more workers you can continually drop people off and they can overlap each other arrivals and departures.

[GeeBee]

If you are using buses to move workers to heating plant then make sure you have a few snow plows working during the winter months. You might also need to increase the number of buses you are using during winter to take into account the longer commute times you will see on snowy roads.

[Bert]

Originally posted by StoneFire!☭:

Keep in mind with the above tip that the heating plants produce pollution, and pollution will kill off your citizen living in the affected area.

A small heating plant just within walking distance of a larger apartment building (I think almost 400m with gravel footpath) will barely reach it with its pollution. Not ideal, but it's good enough for the start until you are able to ensure a steady stream of workers by busses to a farther heating plant.

[lukastag]

The temperature in the pipes drops so much that it is better not to switch this function on. The building must be close to the city but what about pollution and sources? A building 350m away from the connection may already have a low temperature problem if the heating plant is located a bit further away from the city.

They should fix it. Or maybe in Slovakia they have a heating plant on every corner??

[Project7]

Originally posted by StoneFire!☭:

Keep in mind with the above tip that the heating plants produce pollution, and pollution will kill off your citizen living in the affected area.

Your problem is overall one of the more critical to get right, something that I myself also struggle with sometimes. My recent start in the beta patch I've come to the realization that building a heating plant larger than you need is best idea for making sure it's always manned. What happens when you build a small 6 man plant is that once a bunch of workers are dropped they all basically leave at once and is harder to maintain a constant flow of workers timed just right to replace them, so by building a larger plant with space for more workers you can continually drop people off and they can overlap each other arrivals and departures.

yeah i agree, the small heating plant is only for a real small city and than i would really think about building it simply in reach of a house. But i rather build a big one and support 2 small citys with it

[Beast of War]

I will describe all the things i ran across :

Problem 1

- no or unreliable electricity, whole system need pumps to move the heated water. If there is no electricity near a heat exhanger it may be filled with hot water ( by a distant heat water pump that has power ) but it is not sending it to the buildings.

Problem 2

- the heating plant has a boiler capacity, lets take the small one with 300 m3. You can only connect 3 x small heat exchanger of 100 m3. If you connect more all boilers. exceeding he plants 300 m3 these will not longer get enough heat.

It is the same for the large coals one, 1050 m3. You can only connect 3 heat exchangers of 300 m3 ( = 900 m3 ) plust an optional small one of 100 m3.

You can however overextend the amount of sub connections to the heat exchanger. I think it works the same as electricity. ( maximum amount of connections before it is overburdened )

Problem 3

- No workers in the heating plant. Speaks for itself. Check footpath length, use buses ( they go directly into industry buildings ) us other passenger transport. To get workers from a bus stop disable other passenger types, if need be select 1 apartment building to send all people to that bus stop.

Problem 4

- No fuel. Check coal, oil or whatever you burn.

[GeeBee]

Originally posted by lukastag:

The temperature in the pipes drops so much that it is better not to switch this function on. The building must be close to the city but what about pollution and sources? A building 350m away from the connection may already have a low temperature problem if the heating plant is located a bit further away from the city.

They should fix it. Or maybe in Slovakia they have a heating plant on every corner??

Do you run your pipes underground. I have my heating plant over 2km away from my city and I can still maintain temps at 24 degrees and hot water tanks in mid 60's.

[lukastag]

Originally posted by GeeBee:

Originally posted by lukastag:

The temperature in the pipes drops so much that it is better not to switch this function on. The building must be close to the city but what about pollution and sources? A building 350m away from the connection may already have a low temperature problem if the heating plant is located a bit further away from the city.

They should fix it. Or maybe in Slovakia they have a heating plant on every corner??

Do you run your pipes underground. I have my heating plant over 2km away from my city and I can still maintain temps at 24 degrees and hot water tanks in mid 60's.

My pipes are underground. Can you post a picture? How many people do you have?

[GeeBee]

City is about 3500 population. Do you have enough heat exchangers. If you hover over them it will tell you required capacity. If over 100% you need more

[Visurex]

thanks for all the advices guys :)

[lukastag]

Originally posted by GeeBee:

City is about 3500 population. Do you have enough heat exchangers. If you hover over them it will tell you required capacity. If over 100% you need more

you still have a village. I'm curious about 100,000+ inhabitants

[StoneFire!☭]

Originally posted by lukastag:

The temperature in the pipes drops so much that it is better not to switch this function on. The building must be close to the city but what about pollution and sources? A building 350m away from the connection may already have a low temperature problem if the heating plant is located a bit further away from the city.

They should fix it. Or maybe in Slovakia they have a heating plant on every corner??

I don't know what you're supposing they need to fix as it just sounds like you're doing something wrong or not tackling the problem correctly. The largest city I've successfully heated were about 20-25k pop, and the heating plant was far from the city because I'm always fighting the pollution, pump stations(Not exchanges) will help you extend the distance of where you can put it.