Low FPS

[Pastek]

I have very low FPS, around 30-40 FPS, max 50. Sometimes it peak very low.

I'm only at the start of a new game.
Realistic mode. All feature turned on.
No citizens, no workers, no buildings, no industries, no trains.

I only have some road, maybe about 5km of road.
Maybe a dozen of planned building, mostly a very small crude oil extraction site and a small starting gravel industry. I also have four construction sites planned.

But I dont think this is the cause of these low FPS, since the start I have this.

The map is a randomly generated one. Pretty standard. Nothing crazy (like lots of forest or mountain). It is well balanced.

Trust me, my computer is not the problem. I run most of my games at a stable minimum of 120 FPS. Mostly around 150-160 FPS.

Am I the only one having this ?
What can I do ?

My eye can see the difference and it is very unpleasant (I have a 144Hz monitor). The game dont look smooth at all and I fear that when the industries are gonna be a thing with 1k citizens and more its gonna be a horrible experience.

My settings :
Windowed mode (because I was crashing when loading game previously some month ago and I saw that the full screen was provoking this)
1920x1080
V-Sync desactivated
Everything on Very High (Ultra)

As I said, my computer should not be the problem, but there is my specs :

Windows 11
CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3,80 GHz
RAM : 32 Go
GPU : I have a RTX 3060 Ti
PS: it is a pretty new computer.

[Railsplitter]

I'm noticing it too. I don't know how to figure the FPS, but things are a bit jerky, and my machine is very high end with a monitor to match. Interested to hear what people here might suggest. Thanks for starting this thread.

[Novu]

City simulation games generally don't have high FPS because there is a lot of other stuff going on in the background other than just graphics. If you are getting 30 to 40 frames that is actually pretty decent.

[Titule]

Did you see this:

Massive Lags (https://steamcommunity.com/app/784150/discussions/1/3874844466808582843)

There are also other threads when you search for"fps"

When that happens, have you tried turning the monitor off/on? I'm guessing it's doing some sort of graphics wizardry reset

[Vimes]

At that resolution and the highest of eye candy settings I will get over 300 fps.
My spec being higher than yours.

However, as mentioned, fps is only one measure that isn't too relevant for a city builder type game.
You could try the lowest of settings to see the difference between the two.
Report back.

Also make sure that your game is using the 3060ti and not the internal GPU of the CPU, if it has one..?

But....... If it could be related to the lag noted in that thread I stickied then you might find that switching the monitor off and on could help. Altho that is a specific lag issue and not a general FPS one 👍

[Pastek]

Look, first off I want to respond to the ''its a city builder!'' explanation.

I understand that I should maybe not always expect a stable 120-140 FPS from a city builder and republic simulation game. It may be true. Even if this never was my experience from these kind of games, but lets admit this possibility...

Is it really normal to be locked around 30-40 at the very start of the game ? At my specs ?

Let's be honest here. This does not make any sens and should absolutly not be normal. I think there's something pointing toward an optimization problem. The fact that as a player I'm forced to search for a solution is I think problematic.

I'm playing a lot of very complex and operation-heavy games that are in this kind of category of near (strategy games, management games, city builder, colony simulator, factories and industries simulator, puzzles game, etc.) I could name some like Factorio, Satisfactory, Oxygen not included, Farthest Frontier, Foundation, Against the Storm, Total war, Stellaris, AOE, etc. And almost never these games were under 60-80 FPS at the peak of an advanced games with a lot going on. And also, a lot of these games have way better graphics than Soviet Republic W&R. And some are poorly optimizated. I would need to put a lot of things into these games to make it drop under 60 FPS and should probably do multiple tasks at the same time with my computer.

I will watch the link above and search for solutions, but I'm rather disappointed.

Dont get me wrong. I like so much this game, I appreciate the devs efforts and I'm definitely a fan of the genre and the concept. Lets hope I'm gonna find a solution quick.

[Vimes]

Then take note of the two points I asked you to look at....

Reduce all settings to low, for the eye candy. Start a new game and see your FPS.

Ensure the game is using your 3060Ti and not your CPU's GPU, if applicable.

Then report back :)

I would have thought for a new game at 1080p you would see more than 30-40 FPS, that isn't even locked to a v-sync rate, noting you have that disabled anyway.

[Pastek]

Will do. I'll report back after.
Just a question before, how do I make sure the game is using my GPU and not my CPU ?

[Pastek]

@Vimes

SITREP.

Ok.

A reminder :

CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3,80 GHz
RAM : 32 go (DD4 I think)
GPU : Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 Ti with 4 or 6 Go or RAM
SSD of 1To, about 500 Go of free space
Resolution : HD 1920x1080 144Hz
Everything is good and running smooth. This PC is about one year old.

I'm up to date with my GPU drivers (546.29)
I'm on Windows 11 and up to date, checked it.
I also verify the files integrity of the games in my steam library, everything was fine.
I'm on v.0.8.9.28, the game is supposed to be up to date.

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TEST

< I restarted my PC and then restarted the game. >

A) I tried the game as before and also it did like before : 20-40 FPS, max 50. The game felt slow.
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B) I turned off my monitor in game, waited about 10 seconds, then restart it. Nothing changed. Same FPS. Same situation.
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C) Restarted the game in fullscreen mode. Changed nothing.
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D) I tried restarting the game with Vsync activated (I thought maybe at least it could cap me at 60fps ?) but nothing changed (not suprised).
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I Restarted the game in Windows 7 mode, changed nothing.
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Then, i went for the graphics settings.

E) GRAPHIC SETTINGS

I Restarted the game with low settings on everything. Turned of a lot of candy for the eyes. Lowest possible.

That's where I gain the more FPS. It went up straight to 90-120 FPS. Max was about 130-140 FPS at best when far away from activities and high in the sky. The lowest was around 85-90 FPS in high activies sector but honestly it stay pretty much stable around 95-100 FPS.
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I tried restarting the game at ultra settings but desactivated or lowered one by one each graphic settings. Started with grass, turning them off completly, thinking it would be the most heavy-GPU demanding. But I was wrong. I gained nothing but 1-5 FPS max. Maybe even less. Didnt see a difference.

Did the same with clouds, I was assuming the same hypothesis as grass. But even together, grass and clouds turned off didnt offer me a lot of FPS gain, maybe 5-8 max. The game was still slow to my eyes.

In fact, it look like the graphics settings that gave me the more FPS gains while being turnerd off or at lower settings were the following :
- Ambiant occlusion
- Terrain Depth
- Trees

All the others were pretty much nothing in FPS gain (max 1-2 FPS, sometimes even nothing).

I think that terrain depth and ambiant occlusion gave me the most FPS gain, not sure which one was the better.

But still, if I wanted the more FPS gain, I would have needed to desactivated all of them at once. Then, the FPS gain is maximal and the most stable. And I really see a huge difference from my eyes.
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NOTE : I want to note that I tried multiple times during this to turn off my monitor an restart it, but it did nothing. I also tried a couple time to changed from Windows 7 and Windows 8-10 and saw nothing also. I even had the impression that the Windows 7 version gave 1-3 less FPS, but I may be wrong.

[Pastek]

I will try to disable mods, will see if it give me more FPS (I dont have a lot of them, and mostly light and simple mods).

I will also try to start a new game, maybe I will try with less trees, lakes and mountain, maybe I will gain more FPS.

Honestly, at this point, I feel kinda disapointed. I really dont want to play this game on low settings. I played so much on high and ultra settings, on low the game really feel like an alpha from year 2010 lol

It just cant be competitive against other actual games that have way more better graphics already.

[Pastek]

Just unsubscribed from a lot of mods, and tried to disable all of them in game. Changed nothing.
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Tried creating a new game in a map with less lakes, less mountain/hills and less trees/forest and it also changed nothing.
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It looks like the only way to rise up my FPS is to lower the settings.

On a high spec PC like mine, this is truly unacceptable...

[mchlrbbt]

it shows which GPU its using in lower left corner on the main menu.

[Lex713]

When you start your game it says in the lower left corner of main menu which gpu it uses.

[Pastek]

Ok and how can I changed the GPU ?

It could be the problem ! It said that the GPU is AMD Radeon, which is my CPU !

[mchlrbbt]

it take several steps and i'm to lazy to type them out so just google "how to set default GPU for applications". this is the instructions i used.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000090168/graphics.html

[Pastek]

Well, it worked ! Wow.

Thanks a lot to all of you who helped me. Much appreciated, comrades.

I rocket jumped from 20-50 FPS straight to a great and stable 150-200 FPS ! Now the game is perfecly smooth.

For the others who might see this thread : my problem was that the game didnt recognize my GPU and so my CPU was the hardware that was operating the game.

So I changed the setting of default GPU to make sure the game recognize my RTX. And it worked.

Follow the link mchlrbbt share below, follow these steps :
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000090168/graphics.html

Then restart your game and have fun !

Still, I'm so much confused, I dont understand how this was even possible. It's the very first time in all my life of PC gaming that a game didnt recognize as default my graphic card and then pass throught my CPU. What the... !? Hope this could be patched in the future.