Inquiry about experience in WRSR with GTX 4070 and RX 7700XT

[migelo]

Hello, comrades. I would like to ask for your advice and your experience with the RTX 4070 or RX 7700XT graphics card. My current graphics seem to be dying. I have filtered these two and would like to know how it performs (FPS, in-game GPU usage and stability) in WRSR. In advance I ask comrades who have no experience with these graphics to refrain from opinions, thank you. I'm not a fan of one brand or another, I'm just interested to know which graphics the game performs better with, in QHD resolution. Additionally, if anyone has experience with them in Linux, I'd be grateful for this information :). Thank you very much for the information.

[Sim]

I have RTX 4070 and on 1440p resolution with all video options set to max getting 100-200 FPS in game. Usually ~100 fps when looking at things zoomed in, and way higher fps when zoomed out.

[ling.speed]

It has been a long standing thing to buy amd for linux, but recently it seems like the driver side has been pretty even between the two camps as of late. Havent actually tried WRSR on linux specifically, but many other games had no problems on 1070.

Im in the market for gpus atm as well, and around that price point and up you get what you pay for pretty much. As for picking brand for future proofing we are kind of in a crossroads, both sides can crash and burn or turn benevolent suddenly. Personally im getting 4070ti since with the volume nvidia is selling its probably safer bet (as much as it pains me to perpetuate monopoly).

[migelo]

@Sim... Thank you. May I ask with which CPU?

@ling.speed... Thank you. I currently have a Radeon and have tested that there is not much difference between Windows and Linux in WRSR, which Radeon can't fully utilize. I suppose with Nvidia there will be no difference between Windows and Linux. That's why I'm also interested in GPU utilization in game. Or if anyone hasn't encountered any problem in Linux. I'm trying to get the information as specific as possible for WRSR, because we can't find these strategies in the reviews. For my other strategies, I know they are playable fine on weaker graphics and run better on Nvidia cards.

I was also considering the RTX 4070TI, but the consumption is already high from my point of view.

[Sim]

Originally posted by migelo:

@Sim... Thank you. May I ask with which CPU?

My CPU is Intel 12700F (with DDR4 RAM).

[migelo]

@Sim... Thank you.

[Comrade Sky]

i have had a 2080 TI and i9 9900KS since I got the game and I run it at 4k with great results

Really no need to go so overkill

Personally I would recommend getting a cheaper card unless you really need a more expensive one for some reason

[Delle(DK)]

78003dx cpu and 4080rtx gpu. playing at 1440p.. never had an issue and run very smooth.
never notised the fps but more than enough. ;-)
I dare to say that cheaper cards can run this game perfect as well.
Example a 2080rtx or 3080rtx or an even older 1080ti card.

[Captain Wolf]

Originally posted by Comrade Sky:

i have had a 2080 TI and i9 9900KS since I got the game and I run it at 4k with great results

Really no need to go so overkill

Personally I would recommend getting a cheaper card unless you really need a more expensive one for some reason

I don't have an option for 4k.

But, I do get 2560 x 1440 with most of the settings on high and medium. I only have a 1070ti. So far, I haven't had a city more than about 6,000. I think this will slow down for me eventually. We'll see.

[migelo]

@ Comrade Sky... Thank you. There is a difference between a small civilization and a developed civilization, with trains, helicopters, planes and many cars. It's not the price of the card that matters to me, it's the purpose of the card, and I reject nonsensical TDPs. With Radeon, unfortunately, I see that it's not being utilized to its full potential. Utilization is quiet around 50% and FPS go down.

I am aware of the limitations of CPU threads in this game. That's why I wanted to learn the experiences of users who have the card.

I'll just try Nvidia this time and see if it was a good or bad choice :)

Thx all.

[Vimes]

Overall I have not had great experience with an ATI / AMD card. The last one I tried was an AMD 6800XT Red Devil LTD GPU......

https://postimg.cc/2qP4jS05


It ran this game worse than my 1080Ti it was replacing. Not just this game but there were issues with others. I spent a couple of weeks trying to make it work, in terms of stability but mainly performance.


Eventually I have ended up with a RTX 3070, I have changed that one since.

Even though I really wanted the AMD card to work, hence buying it, it was far too temperamental and erratic. Working with the AMD forums etc did not help, apart from encourage me to refund it before the returns window expired.

Indie titles and perhaps some AAA type, seemed to work better for me with an Nvidia card.

A decent CPU helps this game, to a point, as much as a reasonable GPU.

[migelo]

@Vimes... Thank you. I'm quite happy with Radeon, but I use Linux. Which of course is a completely different discipline especially for graphics manufacturers where the drivers are different (with RX 6800XT you had very low FPS, with RX 5700XT I only get below 60 FPS in advanced gameplay). But that's irrelevant.

I was "investigating" the experience of a specific game here, which actually decides. Probably already happened :)

[Zizo]

I have 11400F and 3070 on FullHD, I have all on max, only:
View distance on Medium
Pedestrian animation on Low
Shadows on Medium
No Clouds

And play with stable 60fps no problem (I have 60hz monitor) before I have reach about cca 50-60k population, after that especially in bigger cities it goes around 40+ fps :) When I look to smallest area, it is back on 60.

So I will try to not exceed 70k because that would make a game runs 30 and that it is especially on trains visible and not so smooth. This game is not much made to having 100k population.

[Vimes]

Originally posted by migelo:

@Vimes... Thank you. I'm quite happy with Radeon, but I use Linux. Which of course is a completely different discipline especially for graphics manufacturers where the drivers are different (with RX 6800XT you had very low FPS, with RX 5700XT I only get below 60 FPS in advanced gameplay). But that's irrelevant.

I was "investigating" the experience of a specific game here, which actually decides. Probably already happened :)

Overall, how is the stability and performance for you in this game using Linux? Which distribution you use?

I do remember a thread that suggested Windows users of an AMD card, in particular the latest series, can have stability issues

[migelo]

@Zizo... Thank you for the report. With a large population, the limitation of the number of CPU threads the game is written for becomes apparent :(

@Vimes... About a year ago I installed Windows 10 to see the difference in FPS and stability. It crashed incredibly often with Radeon. Then there was a driver update and it got better. FPS were only units higher in Windows. There have been such reports in Linux too, but "with us" it is an inappropriate choice of distribution (new HW needs new SW, yet a lot of people try "stable distributions" which often get new SW only in future versions = when the HW is older)

Nowadays on Linux the problem is sound if, paradoxically, you run a game in DX11.1 and it crashes occasionally (1-2 times per "gaming afternoon"). The DX11 version works without crashes, just as it should, however the FPS are slightly lower than for DX11.1. About 5-10%.

On my gaming PC I always have a rolling distro and since 2019 I have a clickable Manjaro Linux. Even after 16 years on Linux I prefer clicking. I play in Manjaro with "Steam native" version DX11.1. Valve didn't choose Arch Linux as a chassis for SteamOS just for fun ;)