Garbage containers and pollution

[Erilio]

Hey dear community!

I'm coming back to the game with the new garbage update and during my city planning, two new questions arose:

1) Why bother using small garbage containers inside the city, knowing how prone they are to overflowing? If you can leave space for it in your city, why shouldn't I just place big garbage containers (the 52t or 156t ones that have no lids)? Is there any downside to jumping straight to big garbage containers inside residential areas?
2) When in high urban density areas (picture shopping mall + hospital + tourism buildings), will placing multiple garbage sites in range split their garbage storage in an equivalent manner? Or will they still overflow one site before going to the next one?



Thanks you commarades!

[GoRun]

Downside is only larger space needed. Move hazardus waste from hospital far from city or export.

[melkij]

Large containers simply won't be used by houses. They are for the industry.

Originally posted by Erilio:

-Why bother using small garbage containers inside the city, knowing how prone they are to overflowing?

1) They overflow more slowly than just one container in the house itself.
2) Fewer places to collect waste improves logistics
3) The container stand will also allow the introduction of separate waste collection (requires research, if enabled). This is the only way to collect biological waste = fertilizer.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Hotels will work with the large container stands as will hospitals, but only the former really needs them.

[Vimes]

Originally posted by melkij:

Large containers simply won't be used by houses. They are for the industry.........................

What makes you think that..?

[Silent_Shadow]

Originally posted by melkij:

This is the only way to collect biological waste = fertilizer.

For buildings without a factory connection point anyway...

[melkij]

Originally posted by Vimes:

Originally posted by melkij:

Large containers simply won't be used by houses. They are for the industry.........................

What makes you think that..?

From in-game tutorial, I think...
This is wrong? Now I'm not so sure whether I checked this or took it as an axiom that small containers should be in residential areas.
Is it possible, without any surprises, to use large containers in residential areas and, accordingly, to forget about garbage trucks for small containers altogether?

[Vimes]

Originally posted by melkij:

Originally posted by Vimes:

What makes you think that..?

From in-game tutorial, I think...
This is wrong? Now I'm not so sure whether I checked this or took it as an axiom that small containers should be in residential areas.
Is it possible, without any surprises, to use large containers in residential areas and, accordingly, to forget about garbage trucks for small containers altogether?

Thanks for the reply :)

I can understand the guidance from the tutorial, not checked it, in regards to bin types and their use.
A difficulty can be, made more so when using higher density housing from the workshop, is to have sorted bins, for different waste types, in adequate number and capacity for those larger buildings. And then get them emptied regularly without having too much road traffic.

If you take a look here....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025917491

Almost 1000 workers are resident within a small square block and yet their rubbish needs are met by a single large container type bin. That allows bin types to be allocated, for sorting at source, and enough time for one TS to cover a whole large town with such an arrangement.

That does not make the smaller bins, and waste trucks, not useful. I have found that it very much depends on building density and occupancy levels in dealing with the accumulating waste. More of an issue if a clinic or hospital, hazardous waste, is also in proximity.

In some areas I absolutely do use the much smaller type, altho they are limited with the number of bins. But fine with less dense and smaller homes to cater for.

Not wrong, but just needing a flexible approach to be considered, imo :)

Both types are very useful.

[melkij]

Great, thanks! I have a penchant for dense housing, it will be useful (and more reliable in winter) to use large containers.

[zytukin]

Originally posted by Vimes:

If you take a look here....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025917491

Almost 1000 workers are resident within a small square block and yet their rubbish needs are met by a single large container type bin. That allows bin types to be allocated, for sorting at source, and enough time for one TS to cover a whole large town with such an arrangement.

Nice, thank you. I always figured that residential buildings needed the small container collections since the buildings themselves needed trucks that handled small containers. Same for industrial, if the building needed a large container truck I figured it only used the large container collection sites.

[Vimes]

Originally posted by zytukin:

Originally posted by Vimes:

If you take a look here....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025917491

Almost 1000 workers are resident within a small square block and yet their rubbish needs are met by a single large container type bin. That allows bin types to be allocated, for sorting at source, and enough time for one TS to cover a whole large town with such an arrangement.

Nice, thank you. I always figured that residential buildings needed the small container collections since the buildings themselves needed trucks that handled small containers. Same for industrial, if the building needed a large container truck I figured it only used the large container collection sites.

You're welcome.

As mentioned both bin types are good to use, as are both truck types. Residential density and numbers etc, as well as light or heavy industry should, i mo, be your guide to what to use where. Not a hard fast rule, per se.